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February 13, 2013, 08:51 PM | #1 |
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Ohio joins Texas and others
Yea baby lets here it for Ohio. show your support
http://ohio.tenthamendmentcenter.com...potential-ban/
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February 13, 2013, 09:14 PM | #2 |
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Thank you for bringing this bill to the forum here.
I emailed the bills sponsor and co-sponsor to personally thank them for introducing SB36 to protect our second amendment rights! Buckeyes please take the 5 minutes to send an email to our elected officials to express the support of this bill! Thank you and God bless. |
February 13, 2013, 09:23 PM | #3 |
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Thanks 17ghk, . . . I never heard about it from any of the usual sources.
We are in for a fight though, . . . gotta keep the pressure on. May God bless, Dwight
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February 13, 2013, 10:26 PM | #4 |
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You realize these state laws have zero effect on FEDERAL law, right?
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February 13, 2013, 11:21 PM | #5 |
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How so? Ky waited but now finally introduced a bill based on the fact that some other bill about guns they were going to pass might hinder federal enforcement in the state. Of course now thats not a concern since its what they want to do.
As far as I know unless power is specifically given to the Feds by the Constitution which 2A isnt then it is reserved to the states or the people. |
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February 14, 2013, 07:48 AM | #8 |
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Didn't Ohio just introduce a bill to ban all magazines 10 rounds and over?
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February 14, 2013, 08:01 AM | #9 |
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February 14, 2013, 08:05 AM | #10 |
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Bravo! The states need to stand up and protect the rights that are rightfully theirs and not let the federal government trample on them. After all it is the United STATES of America and not Obamaland. Most of the power was intended to remain with the state governments with the federal government having a few limited powers rather than the massive power grab that the Feds continually pursue.
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February 14, 2013, 09:29 AM | #11 | |
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A passage of state laws would send a clear message to a senator of exactly how the people of his/her state really thought. In this case, both of the Ohio senators are on board with more federal gun control and will work to see it passed. If "we the people" of Ohio say we don't want it, then they should back off. |
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February 14, 2013, 02:14 PM | #13 |
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I have called and emailed many senators and they are keeping tabs on either for or against. Keep it up guys this is it
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BTW, Obama is the figurehead for the anti movement. Everything bad is his fault because he is the current President. When or if he leaves office everything bad will be the fault of the next President. That is the way it seems to work in this nation.
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February 15, 2013, 12:21 PM | #16 |
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Tom, Perhaps I misunderstand, but it seems to me that you are good with the federal government's continual power grab. If so, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I personally feel the federal government over reaches it authority way too often and that it should be watched diligently. This is why I feel federal enforcement of constitutionally questionable laws should always be challenged. End of discussion for me. Thank you.
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February 15, 2013, 07:59 PM | #17 |
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Make sure to contact these boobs and tell them to stick there gun grabbing laws. here is one SB 18 awb. I called the senators that sponsored this bill and told them that we all don't want there inner city politics in the rest of the state. One told me that guns already owned are grandfathered in and not affected only future sales banned. Thats not what I see anyway. Oh boy they must think we are all as stupid as those inner city flunkies they represent.
Here is the link http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/b...m?ID=130_SB_18
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February 16, 2013, 12:26 AM | #19 |
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@dogtown tom
I respect your opinion and understand your view point but i would just like to add something to the debate. It's a fact that a movement/stand can gain momentum and support when states stand up for the will(rights) of its people which can and will influence the debate. I believe if more states took a stand to the federal governments over reach of power then the people in Washington would be changed for the better. This reason alone is while I would support what what you regard as "meaningless". Legally you may be right but that is something that I believe will have to play out in the courts. If states have the "right" to ban pretty much any semi-automatic gun then why would they not have the right to pass laws that would refute such a ban. I don't claim to be a legal expert by any means but to me it's something that should be pursued along with many other efforts I just don't think it's right to dismiss a states ability(not matter what the issue is) to at least try to have some sort of sovereignty with in these United States. |
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Laws passed on the state level show our elected ones in DC how the voters really feel. Sen. Sherrod Brown is going to vote for more federal gun control. Sen. Robert “Rob” Portman has said he's open to the gun control issue. All the letters in the world aren't going to change Brown's stance. Letters may sway Portman - but - one of those, as you call them, MEANINGLESS laws would send a clear message that we mean business & he better not get too comfortable in his DC office. |
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February 16, 2013, 02:54 PM | #21 |
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Not a Useless Law
That Ohio law, if passed, would not be useless chest-beating.
Currently in Ohio, during a divorce, if one side wants to make-up a story about abuse from her/his spouse, the local Domestic Relations Court can and routinely DOES order the Sheriff to (temporarily) impound the accusee's deadly weapons (guns, bows, swords, etc) until the divorce is final. The accusee need not to *ever* have even been suspected of a crime. This is a clear 2A violation, but the liberal courts and prosecutors allow it to happen. SB36 would prevent this unless written in such a way as to allow the unConstitutional seizure.
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