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Old September 29, 2011, 06:40 PM   #1
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Win. model 12 value

Hey guys, I've got a chance to buy a 1951 production model 12 3 in. mag. Its the heavy duck version. The guy said its about 70% on the bluing and the wood finish isnt great but its not cracked.

Pretty much its a well used gun but not abused. What would you expect to pay for a gun like that?

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Old September 29, 2011, 07:01 PM   #2
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Winchester Model 12 was probably the finest handling pump gun ever made. That being said, it's days as a duck gone are best behind it. Back when it was made, ducks were shot with lead shot. Today, all waterfowl must be shot with non-toxic shot. Unless you want to spring big bucks for the bismoth stuff, steel is what you would be shooting. That presents a problem with those old barrels. They just weren't made to shoot steel. If it has an improved cylinder choke, you might get by with it. But why risk ruining such a fine old gun.

The sympom of a barrel ruined by steel shot is normally a bulge you can feel just before the choke.
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Old September 30, 2011, 12:39 PM   #3
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Value will depend on how its choked ...but at 70% ....its at best a shooter vs a collector gun....

If its a Full choke ...value is probably $ 100 - 150 ...

If its a Modified or Improved Cyclinder...value might go up to $ 200 ....

Unless its a Modified or Improved Cyclinder choke - I'd say you should pass on it. The model 12's are kind of a "hate it" or "love it" kind of gun these days ...and there are lots, and lots, of them for sale all over the country.
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Old September 30, 2011, 01:19 PM   #4
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Also remember that your 70% and his 70% will differ a lot. And wood finish runs under the same opinon, worn is one thing but dents and scratches are another.
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Old September 30, 2011, 01:46 PM   #5
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i will buy all the 3 inch win model 12 duck guns you can find in the condition described for 300.00.,thats cheaper than a rem expess 870 in 12ga 3 inch at walmart. eastbank.
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Old September 30, 2011, 02:14 PM   #6
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I'd expect to see a tag for $300-350 around here in a shop. Unused 12s bring big bucks, but shooters like this are much more common and the price reflects that.
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Old September 30, 2011, 05:42 PM   #7
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We're all trying to be helpful ...but you can see the swing on pricing accross the country from responses...

A couple of pictures of the gun - might help us narrow it down a little ...?
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Old September 30, 2011, 07:12 PM   #8
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I thought the Heavy Ducks were all full choke.

Can you really buy a working shotgun in parts of this country for under $500?
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Old September 30, 2011, 07:19 PM   #9
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Last year's Blue Book is no help on the choke. Maybe it's just the ones I've seen. I like the slightly shorter stocks on them.

70% is $550, plus 60% for a solid rib and 50% for 32" bbls.

A ventilated rib runs the price up to $1500 in that condition.
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