Gents, I need some recipes

D-Ric902 · April 28, 2009, 03:51 PM

I'm looking for 40 S&W data, manuals are all over the place on loads and I don't want to try them all just a couple or three good ones.

I'm using 180 grain TC from Lasercast and 165 grain FP from Berry's
I'm asking for midrange and accurate loads, not looking for blasters.
I have W231 and Unique
Shooting a couple of Sigs and a PX4
Thanks in advance

That'll Do · April 28, 2009, 04:24 PM

Start with the minimum load for each of the powder/bullet combos. That will usually give you the best accuracy. If you want a little more oomph, then move up a little charge wise.

My primary range load for 40 S&W has been a Berry's 155gr FP and Win 231. Mild recoil and accuracy that's better than me...

snuffy · April 29, 2009, 12:58 AM

TANSTAAFL There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!

I wish there was such a thing as one standard load that works in EVERY weapon. Then component selection would be simple, one bullet, one powder, one primer, case, grains of said powder. Sounds boring doesn't it?

In other words, you're going to have to pick some components from the vast array out there, work up loads for your guns. No shortcuts.

Me telling you use X Y Z to shoot A B C will do you no good. My load may shoot okay in your gun, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it!

Shoney · April 29, 2009, 03:47 AM

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snuffy said:
TANSTAAFL There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!

To ilustrate the wisdom snuffy wrote; I got 5 Bulgie Mak 9X18's when they were $89.00 each when you bought 5. Out of 3 brands of cast in 90 & 100 gr, and the three brands of JHP's 90-95 gr, and testing with 7 different powders (there was no load data published back then), not one of the 5 performed well using the exact same load.

Most loads were mid range with lead, and the JHP's worked well from moderate to Stout loads. Russian ammo used 120gr bullets at velocites 200-300 fps faster than the hotest 95 JHP.

If you want accurate loads, ya gotta do the work!!

ccwtrainer · April 29, 2009, 12:55 PM

I have used 4 grains of W231 under a 180 LRN bullet is almost every pistol made that shoots the 40 S & W with very good results in every pistol.
Granted "one size rarely fits all" pistols but this load comes pretty close!

snuffy · April 29, 2009, 01:24 PM

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If you want accurate loads, ya gotta do the work!!

Thanks Shoney, most times when I answer like that, I get some that accuse me of being selfish. I know what works in my pistols/revolvers, because I took the time and effort to work up loads.

CCWT, welcome to the forum! I, my self, use 5.0 231 behind 165 RNFP extreme plated bullets. I reduce that by 1/2 grain for 175 lead boolits. They work well in my M-22 glock.

Shoney · April 29, 2009, 07:07 PM

snuffy
I have always been leary of giving or using loads from any forum on the net. Their ar buch tings astypos,

ccwtrainer
WELCOME TO TFL!!!

In the literature of accuracy loads for IPSC shooter, their accuracy loads with WW231 and 180 gr bullets range from 4.8to 5.8 gr. Your 4.0 charge is a real powder puff load in comparison, a great plinking load. However, I prefer to practice with loads closer to my PD ammo, and those are pretty snappy.

ccwtrainer · April 29, 2009, 07:47 PM

Thanks for the welcome shoney and snuffy, I've been reloading for more that 40 years and am happy to find a group of "real" perople that I can communicate with with similiar interests.

ccwtrainer · April 29, 2009, 07:55 PM

By the way, you will find as the arthritus takes over, you too will start reducing your loads to ease the pain if you want to continue shooting.
I do have 1,000 rounds of 180 JHP loaded with 5.5 grains of W231 but they are in my get away "grab bag" along with 40 loaded 30 round AR15 mags.
Everyone should have a last ditch grab bag, don't you think?
Maybe this is covered somewhere else in this forum, if it isn't, it should be!

April 28, 2009, 03:51 PM	#1
D-Ric902 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2004 Location: Northeastern Indiana Posts: 402	Gents, I need some recipes I'm looking for 40 S&W data, manuals are all over the place on loads and I don't want to try them all just a couple or three good ones. I'm using 180 grain TC from Lasercast and 165 grain FP from Berry's I'm asking for midrange and accurate loads, not looking for blasters. I have W231 and Unique Shooting a couple of Sigs and a PX4 Thanks in advance __________________ mercysdad.com

April 29, 2009, 12:58 AM	#3
snuffy Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2001 Location: Oshkosh wi. Posts: 3,055	TANSTAAFL There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch! I wish there was such a thing as one standard load that works in EVERY weapon. Then component selection would be simple, one bullet, one powder, one primer, case, grains of said powder. Sounds boring doesn't it? In other words, you're going to have to pick some components from the vast array out there, work up loads for your guns. No shortcuts. Me telling you use X Y Z to shoot A B C will do you no good. My load may shoot okay in your gun, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it! __________________ The more people I meet, the more I love my dog They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?

April 29, 2009, 12:55 PM	#5
ccwtrainer Junior Member Join Date: April 29, 2009 Location: NC Posts: 13	40 S & W load I have used 4 grains of W231 under a 180 LRN bullet is almost every pistol made that shoots the 40 S & W with very good results in every pistol. Granted "one size rarely fits all" pistols but this load comes pretty close!

April 29, 2009, 07:07 PM	#7
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	snuffy I have always been leary of giving or using loads from any forum on the net. Their ar buch tings astypos, ccwtrainer WELCOME TO TFL!!! In the literature of accuracy loads for IPSC shooter, their accuracy loads with WW231 and 180 gr bullets range from 4.8to 5.8 gr. Your 4.0 charge is a real powder puff load in comparison, a great plinking load. However, I prefer to practice with loads closer to my PD ammo, and those are pretty snappy. __________________ I pledge allegiance to the Flag - - -, and to the Republic for which it stands….Our Forefathers were brilliant for giving us a Republic, not a democracy! Do you know the difference??? and WHY?http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...les.asp?id=111

April 28, 2009, 04:24 PM	#2
That'll Do Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 546	Start with the minimum load for each of the powder/bullet combos. That will usually give you the best accuracy. If you want a little more oomph, then move up a little charge wise. My primary range load for 40 S&W has been a Berry's 155gr FP and Win 231. Mild recoil and accuracy that's better than me...

April 29, 2009, 07:47 PM	#8
ccwtrainer Junior Member Join Date: April 29, 2009 Location: NC Posts: 13	Thanks for the welcome shoney and snuffy, I've been reloading for more that 40 years and am happy to find a group of "real" perople that I can communicate with with similiar interests.

April 29, 2009, 07:55 PM	#9
ccwtrainer Junior Member Join Date: April 29, 2009 Location: NC Posts: 13	By the way, you will find as the arthritus takes over, you too will start reducing your loads to ease the pain if you want to continue shooting. I do have 1,000 rounds of 180 JHP loaded with 5.5 grains of W231 but they are in my get away "grab bag" along with 40 loaded 30 round AR15 mags. Everyone should have a last ditch grab bag, don't you think? Maybe this is covered somewhere else in this forum, if it isn't, it should be!