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December 16, 2009, 02:32 PM | #1 |
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185 Grain Golden Saber Loads
What are some good full power loads using w231. Ive consulted my reloading books and I am seeing 6.1 gr w231 as max. Well I worked up the load to 6.1 and I am only getting a 10 shot average of around 825 fps.
The funny thing is I also loaded some LSWC at 5.0 gr of 231 and the velocities average 790 fps with a whole grain less powder. The reloading books only indicate Jacketed in one and hornady xtp in the other. I have googled this and some people are using 6.8 gr which is .7 over max. Is there something odd about the Golden Sabers? Gun= Springfield 1911 with 5" barrel Thanks and confused, Ed |
December 16, 2009, 02:43 PM | #2 |
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Bad obturation on the jacketed rounds? Under-sized? Oversized barrel that is obturating with the softer lead bullets?
Slug the barrel. |
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Handloads.com shows 6.7 gr. for 1,050 fps for JHP.
http://reloadammo.com/45loads.htm shows 990 fps for 6.8 gr., so you should be able to gradually increase what you have been doing so far. |
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I use Unique for heavy ACP loads.
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December 16, 2009, 09:02 PM | #7 |
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Acording to my Lyman book you are at the max. I was loading some 200 gr LSWC at thier starting load with 800x, they were way under powered and shooting well low of POA. I checked the Hodgdaon site and the start load they listed was in the middle of what the Lyman book has listed.
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I think your chrono is off.
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December 16, 2009, 10:30 PM | #9 |
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I have not had my best results using Win231 with 185 or 230gr bullets.
my best loads for 185gr Golden Sabers are: 1. 10.0gr AA#5 2. 4.9gr IMR 700X 3. 6.0gr Red Dot all of these have an OAL of 1.245" and shoot sub 2" groups at 15yds out of my Springer 1911A1 GI model.
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