jeep Commercial Pulled

WAGCEVP · January 14, 2002, 07:48 PM

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: JEEP COMMERCIAL PULLED
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:33:40 EST

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We can influence the market AND policy. Stick together folks.

I JUST RECEIVED A FAX FROM DAIMLER CHRYSLER STATING THEY WILL PULL THE
COMMERCIAL.

WE ARE PREPARING THE FAX UP SO WE CAN SEND OUT AN E-MAIL VERSION FOR YOUR
REFERENCE. HUNTERS STILL CARRY AN IMPACT

Dr. David M. Knotts
Executive Vice President
International Hunter Education Association
PO Box 490
Wellington, CO 80549
Tel: 970-568-7954
Fax: 970-568-7955

C.R.Sam · January 14, 2002, 08:37 PM

Cool. Sometimes we get it together.

Sam

The Plainsman · January 14, 2002, 08:44 PM

Obviously, some of us poor souls missed something. What commercial?

C.R.Sam · January 14, 2002, 10:23 PM

Plainsman....see Jeep petition thread this forum.
Or click. http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...threadid=96622

Sam

citizen · January 15, 2002, 04:11 AM

.....just wish we could be this effective elsewhere....

labgrade · January 15, 2002, 10:13 AM

{double tap}

labgrade · January 15, 2002, 10:13 AM

citizen,

We can, we can!

Influencing a commercial enterprise is realitively easy = they've got a fairly immediate revenue source at risk, are in the business of making money & understand that.

Re the politicos, it's really the same thing, although it takes more #s of people - from many more geographical areas - & to keep harpin' (not just a "sign a petetion" thing). At last resort, they got to be voted out.

It can be done, but I've yet to see too many concerted efforts to do so ....

dZ · January 16, 2002, 09:32 AM

considering that Kmart has declared bankruptcy, we can claim that gun owners helped cause the demise of a significant portion of their sales.

Dogjaw · January 16, 2002, 03:27 PM

Here's an online petition. There's over 12,500 signatures on just a few days. Everyone get on board. It's about time we let them know how we feel and make sure they get the message. http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_pe...d.cgi?jeepcomm

WAGCEVP · January 17, 2002, 07:34 PM

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Jeep's Response on Pulling Ads
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:38:01 EST

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Thank you for your comments regarding our 30-second Jeep Grand Cherokee
television commercial. We value your opinion and appreciate your
willingness to share it with us.

As you know, outdoor activities and communing with the environment are
both basic to the DNA of the Jeep brand. That is why for many years Jeep
has sponsored and supported a wide range of outdoor events and activities.

With this in mind, we created the commercial to communicate the key
attributes of Jeep off-road capability, ruggedness, safety and security.
Because of our innate involvement with nature and outdoor activities, we
felt we could use the hunting analogy in a tongue-in-cheek way to highlight
the go anywhere, do anything capability of Jeep vehicles.

Unfortunately, we did not anticipate this story line would evoke such
negative emotion among some viewers. That was never intended. We
apologize if we inadvertently offended any individual or group.
Obviously we underestimated the sensitivity of this issue.

Jeep, as the embodiment of the great outdoors, does not want to damage our
relationship with any groups or individuals that love, appreciate and enjoy
outdoor activities. Nor do we want to damage our relationship with our
loyal customers or prospects who reside on either side of this issue.
Therefore, because this is so emotionally charged, we will no longer
continue this campaign.

Again, thank you for sharing your views with us. We hope this
clarifies our position.

NOTE: Please do not use the 'Reply' function of your email. If
you have a need to respond to this, please visit us at our reply form (link
provided below). Our system is NOT able to accept any emails at this address.

For any future communications related to this email, please refer to the
following information:
REFERENCE NUMBER:
9547281
TICKET (Tracking) NUMBER: 1069052
REPLY LINK:

http://www.chrysler.com/wccs/brand_f...ry=U&ticket_id
69052&reference•47281&

Sincerely,

Amelia Retherford
Senior Staff Representative
DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance Center

clem · January 17, 2002, 09:37 PM

Sounds all and good but, does Jeep really mean it? Or is this just fluff?

Clem
USMC Retired

buckskinner · January 18, 2002, 08:45 PM

Jeep's response is still an individual's double-speak. This "senior staff representative" should be re-educated!

Jeep's "innate involvement with nature and outdoor activities" include taking the kids to soccer, and running over people's loose pets!

:barf:

Don't get me wrong, I love soccer, but please people! draw the line at catch and release deer hunting!!!

labgrade · January 21, 2002, 03:49 AM

If nothing else & a bit of a twist, don't most (all) states have some sort of law against harrassing wildlife? & what would be the legal ramifications of a mere private citizen doing "catch 'n release" of any large mammal? Most likely VERY illegal? I'd betcha.

Isn't Jeep, by de facto silliness, advocating of "doing your own thing" & violating several laws?

Think of the very real possibility of the trauma caused to any deer live-trapped, strapped to a bumper/hood, driven "all over" & then released in the presence of so many (+ cameramen!) - not to mention the bearded ad-guy & attendant animal-lovers-babes!

The Hooror!

This must be brought to light & Jeep must be called on the carpet!

Dr.Rob · January 23, 2002, 09:01 PM

Hey we spoke up and they took notice.. told ya so.

C.R.Sam · January 23, 2002, 10:24 PM

Shame we can't stick together enough to hammer Smith n Wesson like Jeep.

Sam

January 14, 2002, 07:48 PM	#1
WAGCEVP Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2000 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,989	jeep Commercial Pulled From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: JEEP COMMERCIAL PULLED Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:33:40 EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We can influence the market AND policy. Stick together folks. I JUST RECEIVED A FAX FROM DAIMLER CHRYSLER STATING THEY WILL PULL THE COMMERCIAL. WE ARE PREPARING THE FAX UP SO WE CAN SEND OUT AN E-MAIL VERSION FOR YOUR REFERENCE. HUNTERS STILL CARRY AN IMPACT Dr. David M. Knotts Executive Vice President International Hunter Education Association PO Box 490 Wellington, CO 80549 Tel: 970-568-7954 Fax: 970-568-7955 __________________ When women are disarmed, a rapist will never hear - Stop or I'll shoot! Armed Citizens SAVE Lives! <A HREF="http://www.wagc.com http://sites.netscape.net/wagcga/homepage Gun" TARGET=_blank>http://www.wagc.com http://sites.netscape.net/wagcga/homepage Gun</A> Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound. "Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est" ("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands") Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the younger" ca. (4 BC - 65 AD)

January 14, 2002, 08:44 PM	#3
The Plainsman Senior Member Join Date: June 8, 2000 Location: Kansas Hill Country Posts: 449	Gents.... Obviously, some of us poor souls missed something. What commercial?

January 15, 2002, 04:11 AM	#5
citizen Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2000 Posts: 796	.....just wish we could be this effective elsewhere.... __________________ ILLEGITIMI NON CARBORUNDUM NRA, GOA, AOC Ignorance can be cured, Stupid is forever Life is too short for dial-up

January 16, 2002, 09:32 AM	#8
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	considering that Kmart has declared bankruptcy, we can claim that gun owners helped cause the demise of a significant portion of their sales. __________________ "O tell the Lacedomecians to damn the torpedoes." BOTR, Chapter V: Some Monsters

January 17, 2002, 07:34 PM	#10
WAGCEVP Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2000 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,989	Jeeps Response From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Jeep's Response on Pulling Ads Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:38:01 EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for your comments regarding our 30-second Jeep Grand Cherokee television commercial. We value your opinion and appreciate your willingness to share it with us. As you know, outdoor activities and communing with the environment are both basic to the DNA of the Jeep brand. That is why for many years Jeep has sponsored and supported a wide range of outdoor events and activities. With this in mind, we created the commercial to communicate the key attributes of Jeep off-road capability, ruggedness, safety and security. Because of our innate involvement with nature and outdoor activities, we felt we could use the hunting analogy in a tongue-in-cheek way to highlight the go anywhere, do anything capability of Jeep vehicles. Unfortunately, we did not anticipate this story line would evoke such negative emotion among some viewers. That was never intended. We apologize if we inadvertently offended any individual or group. Obviously we underestimated the sensitivity of this issue. Jeep, as the embodiment of the great outdoors, does not want to damage our relationship with any groups or individuals that love, appreciate and enjoy outdoor activities. Nor do we want to damage our relationship with our loyal customers or prospects who reside on either side of this issue. Therefore, because this is so emotionally charged, we will no longer continue this campaign. Again, thank you for sharing your views with us. We hope this clarifies our position. NOTE: Please do not use the 'Reply' function of your email. If you have a need to respond to this, please visit us at our reply form (link provided below). Our system is NOT able to accept any emails at this address. For any future communications related to this email, please refer to the following information: REFERENCE NUMBER: 9547281 TICKET (Tracking) NUMBER: 1069052 REPLY LINK: http://www.chrysler.com/wccs/brand_f...ry=U&ticket_id 69052&reference•47281& Sincerely, Amelia Retherford Senior Staff Representative DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance Center

January 14, 2002, 08:37 PM	#2
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Cool. Sometimes we get it together. Sam

January 14, 2002, 10:23 PM	#4
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Plainsman....see Jeep petition thread this forum. Or click. http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...threadid=96622 Sam

January 15, 2002, 10:13 AM	#6
labgrade Member In Memoriam Join Date: November 29, 1999 Location: west of a small town, CO Posts: 4,346	{double tap}

January 16, 2002, 03:27 PM	#9
Dogjaw Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2001 Location: S.W. Michigan Posts: 560	Here's an online petition. There's over 12,500 signatures on just a few days. Everyone get on board. It's about time we let them know how we feel and make sure they get the message. http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_pe...d.cgi?jeepcomm

January 17, 2002, 09:37 PM	#11
clem Junior member Join Date: April 17, 2001 Location: Arizona Territory Posts: 847	Sounds all and good but, does Jeep really mean it? Or is this just fluff? Clem USMC Retired

January 18, 2002, 08:45 PM	#12
buckskinner Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 1999 Posts: 131	Jeep makes no mention of sportsmen's contributions! Jeep's response is still an individual's double-speak. This "senior staff representative" should be re-educated! Jeep's "innate involvement with nature and outdoor activities" include taking the kids to soccer, and running over people's loose pets! :barf: Don't get me wrong, I love soccer, but please people! draw the line at catch and release deer hunting!!! __________________ "Freedom is not empowerment. Empowerment is what the Serbs have in Bosnia. Anybody can grab a gun and be empowered. It's not entitlement. An entitlement is what people on welfare get, and how free are they? It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights—the 'right' to education, the 'right' to health care, the 'right' to food and housing. That's not freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the rations of slavery—hay and a barn for human cattle. There's only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

January 21, 2002, 03:49 AM	#13
labgrade Member In Memoriam Join Date: November 29, 1999 Location: west of a small town, CO Posts: 4,346	If nothing else & a bit of a twist, don't most (all) states have some sort of law against harrassing wildlife? & what would be the legal ramifications of a mere private citizen doing "catch 'n release" of any large mammal? Most likely VERY illegal? I'd betcha. Isn't Jeep, by de facto silliness, advocating of "doing your own thing" & violating several laws? Think of the very real possibility of the trauma caused to any deer live-trapped, strapped to a bumper/hood, driven "all over" & then released in the presence of so many (+ cameramen!) - not to mention the bearded ad-guy & attendant animal-lovers-babes! The Hooror! This must be brought to light & Jeep must be called on the carpet!

January 23, 2002, 09:01 PM	#14
Dr.Rob Staff Alumnus Join Date: July 28, 1999 Location: Denver Posts: 2,454	Hey we spoke up and they took notice.. told ya so. __________________ You broke into the wrong Rec Room!

January 23, 2002, 10:24 PM	#15
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Shame we can't stick together enough to hammer Smith n Wesson like Jeep. Sam