Holster wear. Any suggestions? - Page 2

PatientWolf · July 13, 2013, 11:57 AM

I wasn't aware of Robar

Examples of Teflon impregnated Chrome include:
Wearalon by Empire Hard Chrome
TM119 by TechMetals, Inc
Chrome Plus by Nutmeg

There are probably several more and the final finish probably varies from company to company. I also don't know if these companies will coat firearm components.

newfrontier45 · July 17, 2013, 09:56 AM

I agree that holster wear is a fact of life if you holster a handgun. It is inevitable.

NP3 is nickel and teflon and nowhere near as hard as hard chrome.

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If the Melonite starts to wear off or streak a lot

Melonite doesn't streak or wear off. It is a surface hardening treatment, not a finish. It imparts zero color change on the part. I don't know why everybody thinks the black on a pistol's slide is Tenifer/Melonite, it is not. Usually black oxide.

ClydeFrog · July 17, 2013, 06:31 PM

If the M&P is black oxide, why does Smith & Wesson say its Melonite?...

**JohnKSa** · July 17, 2013, 10:33 PM

There's usually some sort of black/nonglare/nonreflective finish applied over melonite/tenifer, but it's separate and applied separately from the underlying melonite/tenifer.

One way we know this is true is because Glock USA, for a fee, will reapply the black finish, but has stated that they do not reapply the tenifer and, in fact, can not apply tenifer in the U.S. due to EPA restrictions.

Herr Walther · July 17, 2013, 11:54 PM

On the P99's it is bare Tennifer. There is no external finish on top of the Tennifer finished slide.

That's the way Walther used to finish them. I can't say what they are doing to the pistol slide that used to be the P99.

**JohnKSa** · July 18, 2013, 12:34 AM

http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/...-ferritic.html
http://www.burlingtoneng.com/melonite.html

According to these two articles, melonite imparts a black color to the finished surface. I learned something tonight.

According to the first source (and others) tenifer leaves the surface a dull metallic gray color.

So if Walther P99 slides are black AND they're using the Melonite process, they're not applying anything over the Melonite. If they're tenifer and they're black then they are applying some sort of overcoat like Glock does.

dgludwig · July 29, 2013, 12:58 PM

Using a leather holster custom fit for the gun (so that it stays in place and doesn't move around) with a silicon impregnated suede lining will slow down the wear on the finish (so long as you keep the lining clean) but, as others have said, holster any handgun often enough and wear from a holster will eventually rear its ugly (pretty, for those who favor "character") head. Also, as already mentioned, some finishes (such as that on a Glock) are much better at resisting holster wear than are other finishes. Conventional bluing probably gives its originality up the quickest.

July 17, 2013, 06:31 PM	#28
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	S&W.... If the M&P is black oxide, why does Smith & Wesson say its Melonite?...

July 17, 2013, 10:33 PM	#29
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,971	There's usually some sort of black/nonglare/nonreflective finish applied over melonite/tenifer, but it's separate and applied separately from the underlying melonite/tenifer. One way we know this is true is because Glock USA, for a fee, will reapply the black finish, but has stated that they do not reapply the tenifer and, in fact, can not apply tenifer in the U.S. due to EPA restrictions. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

July 17, 2013, 11:54 PM	#30
Herr Walther Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2001 Location: A Place Worse than California Posts: 782	On the P99's it is bare Tennifer. There is no external finish on top of the Tennifer finished slide. That's the way Walther used to finish them. I can't say what they are doing to the pistol slide that used to be the P99. __________________ "It was people who upheld their duties to their office, the constitution, and the public by opposing Hitler who were called traitors" ------------------------------------- "...a historian asked what had happened to the German people for them to accept a criminal government. Unfortunately, nothing needed to happen. In nations across the world people accept government crime." ------------------------------------- "In democracies as well as dictatorships, subordinates illegally obey their rulers. Subordinates who remain true to their oaths of office by opposing their rulers are rare."

July 18, 2013, 12:34 AM	#31
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,971	http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/...-ferritic.html http://www.burlingtoneng.com/melonite.html According to these two articles, melonite imparts a black color to the finished surface. I learned something tonight. According to the first source (and others) tenifer leaves the surface a dull metallic gray color. So if Walther P99 slides are black AND they're using the Melonite process, they're not applying anything over the Melonite. If they're tenifer and they're black then they are applying some sort of overcoat like Glock does. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

July 29, 2013, 12:58 PM	#32
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,486	Using a leather holster custom fit for the gun (so that it stays in place and doesn't move around) with a silicon impregnated suede lining will slow down the wear on the finish (so long as you keep the lining clean) but, as others have said, holster any handgun often enough and wear from a holster will eventually rear its ugly (pretty, for those who favor "character") head. Also, as already mentioned, some finishes (such as that on a Glock) are much better at resisting holster wear than are other finishes. Conventional bluing probably gives its originality up the quickest. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

July 13, 2013, 11:57 AM	#26
PatientWolf Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Location: NC Posts: 946	I wasn't aware of Robar Examples of Teflon impregnated Chrome include: Wearalon by Empire Hard Chrome TM119 by TechMetals, Inc Chrome Plus by Nutmeg There are probably several more and the final finish probably varies from company to company. I also don't know if these companies will coat firearm components.

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