Powder, primer, bullets?

tools · July 4, 2007, 06:55 PM

I guess, being new to reloading, I'll have to ask this -- but I think there is the likelihood this may be one of those "religious" questions.

I would like to load match grade (high accuracy) .223 rounds and self-defence .45ACP rounds. My rifle is a 1:9 twist AR15 and the pistol a government 1911.

What can you recommend for powder, bullet, and primer for each of these?

[email protected] · July 4, 2007, 07:18 PM

223:

Either RE15 or Varget, 205M's, winny brass, and 60-69 grain bullets.

ACP:

I use Red dot and 230 Ranier's for practice rounds. For defense I stick to factory. I am ascared of lawyers.

tools · July 8, 2007, 07:56 PM

And which primers are good for .45 -- CGI 300's or 350's, or another brand?

crowbeaner · July 8, 2007, 09:20 PM

I've used both CCI 300s and 350s; the 300s should be fine for most .45 ACP loads. Save your 350s for magnum loads and slower burning powders like H110 and WW296. I've shot literally thousands of CCI primers and never had one not go bang.

Trapper L · July 8, 2007, 10:34 PM

Might try 25.0 grs AA2230 powder in Winchester brass under almost any 55 gr bullet. All of my ARs shioot this load under .5 inch at 100 yds. And I have the 1:10", 1:9", and 1:8" twist DPMS ARs. The load seems to work on every AR I've tried it in. It also shoots in my brothers ARs and all of the folks that have tried it at the shooting range. Just because it is a fast twist doesn't mean it won't shoot the lighter bullets. Frankly, I've had better luck with all of mine with the 55 gr bullets rather than the recommended 60+gr pills. Primers are Winchester Small rifle.

tools · July 9, 2007, 12:40 AM

OK, thanks for the info.

Martyn4802 · July 9, 2007, 09:08 AM

You need a good reloading manual or two to use for getting good, safe, loads.

Martyn

amamnn · July 9, 2007, 06:44 PM

If you are going for match accuracy with that 1:9 .223 --Barnes, Sierra, or custom made 62 to 73 grain boat tails for ranges beyond 300 yards. I like H-335 for those but Vht has excellent match grade powders that many people prefer. I found no improvement myself, and the H335 is easier to get here. A flat based bullet of similar weight might do better for you at closer ranges.

I don't carry a .45 so I can't speak from personal experience about that caliber, but I lot of people use Hornady XTPs, Speer Gold dots or Nosler HP bullets for personal defense. I've been using the xtps in .32 HRM load and the 9mm. Recently I had the chance to see the bullet's terminal performance in wet telephone books. I'm staying with the XTP in the .32 unless Nosler or Sierra start making a 100 grain HP for it. I'm going with Nosler powder jackets in the 9mm. I like Nosler tourney master in my .45s but as I said they are not carry guns.

amamnn · July 9, 2007, 06:46 PM

power jackets---silly spellchecker let me slip that typo by

July 4, 2007, 06:55 PM	#1
tools Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2006 Posts: 124	Powder, primer, bullets? I guess, being new to reloading, I'll have to ask this -- but I think there is the likelihood this may be one of those "religious" questions. I would like to load match grade (high accuracy) .223 rounds and self-defence .45ACP rounds. My rifle is a 1:9 twist AR15 and the pistol a government 1911. What can you recommend for powder, bullet, and primer for each of these?

July 8, 2007, 07:56 PM	#3
tools Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2006 Posts: 124	And primers? And which primers are good for .45 -- CGI 300's or 350's, or another brand?

July 9, 2007, 09:08 AM	#7
Martyn4802 Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2007 Location: Grayling, Michigan Posts: 737	You need a good reloading manual or two to use for getting good, safe, loads. Martyn __________________ US Army Retired NRA Benefactor Life Member JPFO

July 9, 2007, 06:44 PM	#8
amamnn Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2006 Location: WA, the left armpit of the USA Posts: 1,323	If you are going for match accuracy with that 1:9 .223 --Barnes, Sierra, or custom made 62 to 73 grain boat tails for ranges beyond 300 yards. I like H-335 for those but Vht has excellent match grade powders that many people prefer. I found no improvement myself, and the H335 is easier to get here. A flat based bullet of similar weight might do better for you at closer ranges. I don't carry a .45 so I can't speak from personal experience about that caliber, but I lot of people use Hornady XTPs, Speer Gold dots or Nosler HP bullets for personal defense. I've been using the xtps in .32 HRM load and the 9mm. Recently I had the chance to see the bullet's terminal performance in wet telephone books. I'm staying with the XTP in the .32 unless Nosler or Sierra start making a 100 grain HP for it. I'm going with Nosler powder jackets in the 9mm. I like Nosler tourney master in my .45s but as I said they are not carry guns. __________________ "If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal

July 9, 2007, 06:46 PM	#9
amamnn Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2006 Location: WA, the left armpit of the USA Posts: 1,323	power jackets---silly spellchecker let me slip that typo by __________________ "If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal

July 4, 2007, 07:18 PM	#2
[email protected] Junior Member Join Date: May 10, 2007 Posts: 13	223: Either RE15 or Varget, 205M's, winny brass, and 60-69 grain bullets. ACP: I use Red dot and 230 Ranier's for practice rounds. For defense I stick to factory. I am ascared of lawyers.

July 8, 2007, 09:20 PM	#4
crowbeaner Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 1,943	I've used both CCI 300s and 350s; the 300s should be fine for most .45 ACP loads. Save your 350s for magnum loads and slower burning powders like H110 and WW296. I've shot literally thousands of CCI primers and never had one not go bang.

July 8, 2007, 10:34 PM	#5
Trapper L Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 804	Might try 25.0 grs AA2230 powder in Winchester brass under almost any 55 gr bullet. All of my ARs shioot this load under .5 inch at 100 yds. And I have the 1:10", 1:9", and 1:8" twist DPMS ARs. The load seems to work on every AR I've tried it in. It also shoots in my brothers ARs and all of the folks that have tried it at the shooting range. Just because it is a fast twist doesn't mean it won't shoot the lighter bullets. Frankly, I've had better luck with all of mine with the 55 gr bullets rather than the recommended 60+gr pills. Primers are Winchester Small rifle.

July 9, 2007, 12:40 AM	#6
tools Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2006 Posts: 124	OK, thanks for the info.

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