Smith & Wesson model 3913

TGDKY · January 11, 2011, 06:18 PM

So i was going to pick one of these up for CC- seem to fit ok in my hand and i absolutely love 2nd and 3rd gen Smiths. Price was reasonable at $350- but then i hit a BRICK wall. The guy said these were always referred to as the "Lady" Smith&Wesson. Has anyone else heard this? The size is perfect for a cc gun- but i don't want people talking about my girly gun

DiscoRacing · January 11, 2011, 06:19 PM

Never heard that one before...

... awww just get it... I have three of em.
4006, 5906, 4506

MLeake · January 11, 2011, 06:20 PM

... or covered in "Hello, Kitty" decals, who cares?

Are you really that worried about what others might say?

TGDKY · January 11, 2011, 06:25 PM

That is a good point...

DiscoRacing · January 11, 2011, 06:25 PM

just dont jewel the slides...

...it will be fine then.

egor20 · January 11, 2011, 06:30 PM

I have the 469, not much difference, do what I did, practice, practice, practice then go to the range, first one that giggles, bet him/her $50 and shoot rings around them. They usually shut up after that.

David the Gnome · January 11, 2011, 06:30 PM

The Lady Smith is a special model:

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/smithan...sson3913ls.asp

If it doesn't look like that it isn't a Lady Smith.

TGDKY · January 11, 2011, 06:31 PM

That makes a huge difference-he must have thought that was the gun. Thanks for clearing that up

rptrower · January 11, 2011, 06:52 PM

3913LS

3913

camsdaddy · January 11, 2011, 06:58 PM

Take care of your lady and your lady will take care of you. Are you planning to open carry? Im thinking if its for concealed carry you should be ok. If you are gonna let your phobia of carrying a lady smith and your buddies laughing then stand between you and probably one of the greatest carry pistols of all times the next guy is lucky. I mean its small, light, accurate, dependable and feels good to carry. Come to think of it hmmm. BTW 9mm is a lady cartridge anyway anything short of a 50cal for CCW makes you a girly man anyway.

**Tom Servo** · January 11, 2011, 08:22 PM

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The size is perfect for a cc gun- but i don't want people talking about my girly gun

There was a special run of the 3913 that was labeled "LadySmith." I own one, and it doesn't make my chest hair fall out. In fact, I shoot it very well for (what I consider) such a small gun.

The LadySmith moniker has been used several times, to refer to several different guns. The Model 65 LadySmiths were truly marvelous fixed-sight 3" Magnums.

Jamie B · January 11, 2011, 08:48 PM

Tom Servo is a very macho guy, Trust him!

He speaks the truth.

I would love to find a good 39....

**Tom Servo** · January 11, 2011, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Tom Servo is a very macho guy, Trust him!

Yep. Just like that cowboy guy from the Village People!

Cemo · January 11, 2011, 10:41 PM

Not all 3913s are Lady Smiths. regardless, they are great guns. If the gun has been well cared for, don't pass up the deal. Good buy.

MLeake · January 11, 2011, 10:44 PM

Who's more macho, the guy wanting to look bad, or the guy who's comfortable in his own skin?

KyJim · January 11, 2011, 10:56 PM

As previous posts have indicated, the "standard" 3913 had the black grips. Then SW introduced the Lady Smith model which had the gray grips. I have one. Great concealed gun. And I still have hair on my chest, too!

But, apparently some guys liked the look of the gray grips but not the name so SW produced the same gun without the Lady Smith name on it, known as the 3913 NLS. I can't remember what the NLS stands for, but it unofficially stands for Not a Lady Smith. There's a picture of one in the link below:

http://www.auctionarms.com/closed/di...mnum=5724783.0

Squibb · January 11, 2011, 10:59 PM

A 3913 in decent shape for $350. Dang, I'd buy it if it had Girlie Man on the slide. As you now know, there are different 3913s.

I have a 3913LS and as far as I can tell my tightie whities still fit...perfectly.

Glenn E. Meyer · January 11, 2011, 11:07 PM

I had a chance for buying a NIB 3913LS for about $300 and passed it.

As far as gender stereotypes - get with the 21st century. Guys loved the original. The NLS was made for the insecure.

michael t · January 11, 2011, 11:12 PM

I am forever sorry I sold my 3913 It was a good carry pistol.
Now as for the Lady Smith. If your buddies make fun of it . Just take their money in a little shooting match. 3913LS are one mean little Bi%#h

**Tom Servo** · January 12, 2011, 12:52 AM

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As far as gender stereotypes - get with the 21st century. Guys loved the original. The NLS was made for the insecure.

Actually, the LadySmith models tend to fetch a higher price in my neck of the woods than plain 3913's.

ClydeFrog · January 12, 2011, 10:16 AM

I remember a Guns & Ammo article in the early 1990s saying how "great" the 3913 LS model was & how it was worth buying for either a male or female shooter.
I shot a rental 3913 9x19 pistol around the same time. It had a few jams & problems but I was using cheap range reloads and the pistol hadn't been properly cleaned/serviced.
The LS models did have some slick design features but as a left hander, I was not that thrilled with S&W 3rd gen models.

I do recall a local female gun shop manager bringing up the S&W Ladysmith models during a TV news story(that local stations seem to run every 4/5 years when a "violent crime wave" hits). She bluntly told me how most of the industry models are over-priced sales gimmicks and are not much better than standard revolvers or semi auto pistols,

.

Clyde
ps; If you want a "improved" 3913 9mm, see the ASP2000 or maybe track down an original ASP custom model.

LordTio3 · January 12, 2011, 10:34 AM

LadySmith & Wesson 3913...

Well...
Will Smith Carried one in Men In Black.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's a gun, not a purse. Chill out and shoot.

Would you think twice about having this Model 60 in .357 Magnum?

Not really a "Chick Gun" if you ask me.

~LT

carguychris · January 12, 2011, 10:38 AM

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Actually, the LadySmith models tend to fetch a higher price in my neck of the woods than plain 3913's.

+1; both the 3913LS and 3913NL/NLS (I've seen it either way) were premium models that sold for a higher MSRP and actually have a slightly different frame and slide than a standard M3913. Look at rptrower's picture and note how the frame is shaped around the front of the trigger guard and how the slide is cut around the muzzle. These changes were supposedly made so the guns would be easier to draw.

The 3913LS also came with a cute purple soft case with light grey fabric handles and embroidered "LadySmith" logo. I'm not sure if S&W included such a gimme with the 3913NL.

Due to the enhancements and the models' relative rarity, these guns have real cachet with S&W collectors, which seems true for only a handful of the 3rd-gen metal-frame automatics.

FWIW S&W also sold several other similar models: the M3914 (blued M3913), M3953 (DAO M3913 w/o decocker/safety lever), M3954 (blued M3953), M908S (M3913 with plastic sights and guide rod and no RH-side decocker/safety lever), and the M908 (blued M908S). These guns are considered less desirable than the M3913 and sell for less money, but aren't necessarily easier to find because fewer were sold.

twhidd · January 12, 2011, 10:58 AM

I always thought the slanted dust cover on the 3913 Lady Smith made for a very sexy look. I always understood the "NL" on the 3913NL to mean "no logo". Meaning it was the same shape as the Lady Smith as opposed to the shape of the standard 3913, just without the Lady Smith logo.

To this day, I wish I had bought the one I handled at a gun show a few years. I haven't seen one since.

87samurai · January 12, 2011, 11:14 AM

I have a 3913NL and it came with just the normal stuff that you normally get with all S&Ws. It shoots great , but it spends most of the time in the safe now.

January 11, 2011, 06:18 PM	#1
TGDKY Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Posts: 135	Smith & Wesson model 3913 So i was going to pick one of these up for CC- seem to fit ok in my hand and i absolutely love 2nd and 3rd gen Smiths. Price was reasonable at $350- but then i hit a BRICK wall. The guy said these were always referred to as the "Lady" Smith&Wesson. Has anyone else heard this? The size is perfect for a cc gun- but i don't want people talking about my girly gun __________________ ‘‘To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them...’’ “An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.”

January 11, 2011, 06:19 PM	#2
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	Never heard that one before... ... awww just get it... I have three of em. 4006, 5906, 4506 __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

January 11, 2011, 06:20 PM	#3
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	As long as it isn't pink... ... or covered in "Hello, Kitty" decals, who cares? Are you really that worried about what others might say?

January 11, 2011, 06:25 PM	#4
TGDKY Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Posts: 135	That is a good point... __________________ ‘‘To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them...’’ “An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.”

January 11, 2011, 06:25 PM	#5
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	just dont jewel the slides... ...it will be fine then. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

January 11, 2011, 06:30 PM	#6
egor20 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,824	TGDKY I have the 469, not much difference, do what I did, practice, practice, practice then go to the range, first one that giggles, bet him/her $50 and shoot rings around them. They usually shut up after that. __________________ Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand

January 11, 2011, 06:30 PM	#7
David the Gnome Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,092	The Lady Smith is a special model: http://www.gunshopfinder.com/smithan...sson3913ls.asp If it doesn't look like that it isn't a Lady Smith. __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum.

January 11, 2011, 06:31 PM	#8
TGDKY Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Posts: 135	That makes a huge difference-he must have thought that was the gun. Thanks for clearing that up __________________ ‘‘To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them...’’ “An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.”

January 11, 2011, 06:52 PM	#9
rptrower Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2008 Location: Mid Missouri Posts: 211	3913LS 3913

January 11, 2011, 06:58 PM	#10
camsdaddy Senior Member Join Date: October 5, 2007 Posts: 397	Take care of your lady and your lady will take care of you. Are you planning to open carry? Im thinking if its for concealed carry you should be ok. If you are gonna let your phobia of carrying a lady smith and your buddies laughing then stand between you and probably one of the greatest carry pistols of all times the next guy is lucky. I mean its small, light, accurate, dependable and feels good to carry. Come to think of it hmmm. BTW 9mm is a lady cartridge anyway anything short of a 50cal for CCW makes you a girly man anyway.

January 11, 2011, 08:48 PM	#12
Jamie B Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: OH Posts: 139	Tom Servo is a very macho guy, Trust him! He speaks the truth. I would love to find a good 39....

January 11, 2011, 10:41 PM	#14
Cemo Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2010 Location: Central Missouri Posts: 245	Not all 3913s are Lady Smiths. regardless, they are great guns. If the gun has been well cared for, don't pass up the deal. Good buy.

January 11, 2011, 10:44 PM	#15
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Who's more macho, the guy wanting to look bad, or the guy who's comfortable in his own skin?

January 11, 2011, 10:56 PM	#16
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	As previous posts have indicated, the "standard" 3913 had the black grips. Then SW introduced the Lady Smith model which had the gray grips. I have one. Great concealed gun. And I still have hair on my chest, too! But, apparently some guys liked the look of the gray grips but not the name so SW produced the same gun without the Lady Smith name on it, known as the 3913 NLS. I can't remember what the NLS stands for, but it unofficially stands for Not a Lady Smith. There's a picture of one in the link below: http://www.auctionarms.com/closed/di...mnum=5724783.0

January 11, 2011, 10:59 PM	#17
Squibb Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2010 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 213	A 3913 in decent shape for $350. Dang, I'd buy it if it had Girlie Man on the slide. As you now know, there are different 3913s. I have a 3913LS and as far as I can tell my tightie whities still fit...perfectly. __________________ NRA Lifer since 1971

January 11, 2011, 11:07 PM	#18
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	I had a chance for buying a NIB 3913LS for about $300 and passed it. As far as gender stereotypes - get with the 21st century. Guys loved the original. The NLS was made for the insecure. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 11, 2011, 11:12 PM	#19
michael t Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2004 Location: Out back Ky Posts: 4,044	I am forever sorry I sold my 3913 It was a good carry pistol. Now as for the Lady Smith. If your buddies make fun of it . Just take their money in a little shooting match. 3913LS are one mean little Bi%#h __________________ Certified Armed Infidel Colt Defender ,Colt Mustang ,Dan Wesson CBOB, PPK/S, American Classic 1911,Bersa Thunder 380 http://bersachat.comHome of Bersa http://www.metroarms1911forum.com

January 12, 2011, 10:16 AM	#21
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	S&W 3913 Ladysmith models, early 1990s, local gun shop... I remember a Guns & Ammo article in the early 1990s saying how "great" the 3913 LS model was & how it was worth buying for either a male or female shooter. I shot a rental 3913 9x19 pistol around the same time. It had a few jams & problems but I was using cheap range reloads and the pistol hadn't been properly cleaned/serviced. The LS models did have some slick design features but as a left hander, I was not that thrilled with S&W 3rd gen models. I do recall a local female gun shop manager bringing up the S&W Ladysmith models during a TV news story(that local stations seem to run every 4/5 years when a "violent crime wave" hits). She bluntly told me how most of the industry models are over-priced sales gimmicks and are not much better than standard revolvers or semi auto pistols, . Clyde ps; If you want a "improved" 3913 9mm, see the ASP2000 or maybe track down an original ASP custom model.

January 12, 2011, 10:34 AM	#22
LordTio3 Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2010 Location: Bloomington, Indiana Posts: 850	LadySmith & Wesson 3913... Well... Will Smith Carried one in Men In Black. I wouldn't worry about it. It's a gun, not a purse. Chill out and shoot. Would you think twice about having this Model 60 in .357 Magnum? Not really a "Chick Gun" if you ask me. ~LT __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ- Greek:"Come and take them..." Meaning: Here we peaceably stand as armed and free men, willing to defend that peace, and ready to make war upon anyone who threatens that freedom.

January 12, 2011, 10:58 AM	#24
twhidd Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2005 Location: Athens, Georgia Posts: 823	I always thought the slanted dust cover on the 3913 Lady Smith made for a very sexy look. I always understood the "NL" on the 3913NL to mean "no logo". Meaning it was the same shape as the Lady Smith as opposed to the shape of the standard 3913, just without the Lady Smith logo. To this day, I wish I had bought the one I handled at a gun show a few years. I haven't seen one since. __________________ Todd NRA Life Member

January 12, 2011, 11:14 AM	#25
87samurai Member Join Date: April 15, 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 97	I have a 3913NL and it came with just the normal stuff that you normally get with all S&Ws. It shoots great , but it spends most of the time in the safe now.