Smith and Wesson serial number search - Page 80

CraCZ · October 12, 2009, 01:20 PM

Flyfish could you please help me date this m19-3. ser#4k26xxx Thanks for any help-ken

Pensrollei · October 12, 2009, 01:48 PM

I purchased a Smith & Wesson Model 10-5 Serial Number D370XXX with a 4" barrel. I would like to find answers to 3 questions:

1: About what year was this gun made?

2: Can it handle the +P+ ammunition?

3: Should the firing pin wiggle some in the hammer or should it be tight?

Thanks for any response: In Georgia

FlyFish · October 12, 2009, 03:24 PM

CraCZ: Your 19-3 dates from 1973.

Pensrollei: 1. 1971-72. 2. I wouldn't fire +P+ ammo in any of my guns as it doesn't necessarily meet SAAMI specs for peak pressure, but that's me. I don't think your Model 10 is going to kaboom if you try it, but I still wouldn't recommend it. If you want another opinion, you could call S&W - my guess is they'll tell you the same (and you might get some other opinions here as well). 3. The firing pin is designed to pivot up/down but shouldn't have much movement at all side to side.

Hersir · October 12, 2009, 04:35 PM

I recently obtained a pair of S&W Model 60 stainless steel snubbies in .38 Special. The serial numbers are R665xx and BBF07xx. Can anyone give me an idea of when these two revolvers were manufactured? Many thanks.

carguychris · October 12, 2009, 04:53 PM

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I purchased a Smith & Wesson Model 10-5 Serial Number D370XXX with a 4" barrel... Can it handle the +P+ ammunition?

If it's one of the rare Model 10's chambered from the factory in .357 Magnum, yes. Such a Model 10 will say ".357 MAGNUM" on the side of the barrel and will readily chamber a .357 Magnum cartridge.

If not, NO. It is a gun-destroying kB! looking for an opportunity to happen.

Some commercial +P+ is loaded to near-.357Mag pressure levels, nearly double .38Spl pressure levels. The only factory S&W revolvers chambered in .38Spl that are generally strong enough to handle it are N frame .38/44s, which are ridiculously overbuilt; however, even then, I'd be hesitant to fire it through one of these rare and valuable collector's items.

OTOH +P (without the "+" suffix) is safe in most postwar steel-frame .38Spl S&W revolvers, including your Model 10.

laytonj1 · October 12, 2009, 04:59 PM

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I recently obtained a pair of S&W Model 60 stainless steel snubbies in .38 Special. The serial numbers are R665xx and BBF07xx.

R665XX = between 1970 to 1973.
BBF07XX = 1988.

Jim

tyusclan · October 12, 2009, 05:01 PM

Hersir- R665xx should be ~ early 1973.

The BBF prefix is July 1988.

Any S&W manufactured after 1957 when model numbers were assigned can handle +p ammunition with no problem.

laytonj1 · October 12, 2009, 06:00 PM

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R665xx should be ~ early 1973

Tyusclan,

Curious, but the SCSW shows R30001 to R99999 running 1970 to 1973. What source are you using to get "early 1973"?

Jim

tyusclan · October 12, 2009, 06:43 PM

Strictly a guess, and I probably shouldn't do that. My apologies.

You're exactly right on the serial # and year range given.

duramax · October 12, 2009, 08:59 PM

Please would like to know when this was made S&W Highway Patrolman 4" s/n S2758xx Thanks//K

sinister1811 · October 12, 2009, 09:33 PM

Hey guys. Just came into a S&W model 25-2, serial # N734247. What is the date of manufacture and approximate value of this gun in good condition. Thanks

tyusclan · October 12, 2009, 09:49 PM

duramax- 1966-1967

sinister1811- 1980. The book shows good condition at $335, very good at $400.

jakeeee · October 12, 2009, 10:36 PM

hey Jim i would appreciate a little help i have been holding on to an old .38 (i think)for a few years now.i'm sure its not worth any money value...i would like to find parts for it though......the sn is 508690 no letters are before it
help would be awesome

laytonj1 · October 12, 2009, 10:41 PM

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hey Jim i would appreciate a little help i have been holding on to an old .38 (i think)for a few years now.i'm sure its not worth any money value...i would like to find parts for it though......the sn is 508690 no letters are before it

5 shot or 6? Swing out cylinder? 38 S&W or 38 S&W Special (Spl)?

Jim

jakeeee · October 12, 2009, 11:20 PM

5 shot.i don't know gun lingo.it opens forward

laytonj1 · October 12, 2009, 11:27 PM

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5 shot.i don't know gun lingo.it opens forward

By opens forward do you mean the Barrel and cylinder hinges downward when opened?

Jim

jakeeee · October 12, 2009, 11:28 PM

yes....and that pin is the piece i'm missing so its in two parts

jakeeee · October 12, 2009, 11:31 PM

it looks very similiar to the pics on the top of page 33 of these posts

laytonj1 · October 12, 2009, 11:42 PM

Then with a serial number of 508690 it would be a .38 Double Action 4th Change made from 1895 to 1909 and look like this:

For parts, try starting here:
http://www.e-gunparts.com/productsch...ION%20REVOLVER

Jim

jakeeee · October 12, 2009, 11:47 PM

thanks alot it looks like that but the barrel seems shorter...before i start taking the rust off its not a rare model or special right?

laytonj1 · October 12, 2009, 11:52 PM

If you look at the parts link I posted under the picture you can get barrels in 3, 4, 5 and 6".
Value's not that high... especially if your're removing rust.

Jim

hotcha45 · October 13, 2009, 07:08 AM

The Model 60 I posted to ask about all the stamps I would guess is fairly late in Model 60 no-dash production - S/N R246xxx from the 6 digit number. I was assuming it was stainless - glad to have that confirmed.

carguychris · October 13, 2009, 08:25 AM

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sinister1811- 1980. The book shows good condition at $335, very good at $400.

The book value is about 2/3 of what a M25-2 would sell for around here.

Pensrollei · October 13, 2009, 10:38 AM

I appreciate the responses from FlyFish and CarGuyChris. As I said, I am new and do not know the difference between +P and +P+. I will look the up. Stupid question, but does 38 Smith & Wesson Special CTG on the barrel stand for cartridge?

Jeff #111 · October 13, 2009, 10:49 AM

Pensrollei

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I appreciate the responses from FlyFish and CarGuyChris. As I said, I am new and do not know the difference between +P and +P+. I will look the up. Stupid question, but does 38 Smith & Wesson Special CTG on the barrel stand for cartridge?

Yes.

+P and +P+ indicate 38 Special loads that are above the industry pressure standards for the standard 38 Special load. The +P+ is a very high velocity load and resembles a "light" .357 magnum load in terms of pressure and ballistics. You do not shoot +P+ 38 special loads in anything, but a .357 magnum revolver or one of the old Smith & Wesson Heavy Duty and Outdoorsman revolvers (1930-1966). The danger with +P+ 38 Special is that they will chamber in a standard 38 special revolver but they are designed to be fired in a .357 magnum revolver.

The 38 +P+ load used to be called the 38/44, 38 Super Police and the 38 High Velocity. The Heavy Duty revolver and the 38/44 load were introduced together. I own both and I have a few hundred +P+ 38 special rounds. However I won't shoot those in my Heavy Duty and Outdoorsman revolvers because they are collector items and cost me some money.

However I do shoot +P+ in my Ruger GP100 revolver all the time. No danger there.

If you want to know more about the Heavy Duty and the 38 High Velocity/ +P+/ Super Police/ 38/44 HV go to this website. It's run by a collector of Heavy Duty revolvers and the last page will provide some history.

http://www.38-44heavyduty.com/

October 12, 2009, 01:48 PM	#1977
Pensrollei Junior Member Join Date: October 12, 2009 Location: Augusta, Ga Posts: 3	I am new too. I need help I purchased a Smith & Wesson Model 10-5 Serial Number D370XXX with a 4" barrel. I would like to find answers to 3 questions: 1: About what year was this gun made? 2: Can it handle the +P+ ammunition? 3: Should the firing pin wiggle some in the hammer or should it be tight? Thanks for any response: In Georgia

October 12, 2009, 04:35 PM	#1979
Hersir Junior Member Join Date: November 15, 2008 Posts: 1	Dating a pair of S&W Model 60 snubbies I recently obtained a pair of S&W Model 60 stainless steel snubbies in .38 Special. The serial numbers are R665xx and BBF07xx. Can anyone give me an idea of when these two revolvers were manufactured? Many thanks.

October 12, 2009, 08:59 PM	#1985
duramax Junior Member Join Date: October 12, 2009 Location: Left Coast Calie Posts: 1	Highway Patrolman Please would like to know when this was made S&W Highway Patrolman 4" s/n S2758xx Thanks//K

October 13, 2009, 07:08 AM	#1997
hotcha45 Member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Posts: 96	Model 60 The Model 60 I posted to ask about all the stamps I would guess is fairly late in Model 60 no-dash production - S/N R246xxx from the 6 digit number. I was assuming it was stainless - glad to have that confirmed.

October 12, 2009, 01:20 PM	#1976
CraCZ Member Join Date: August 11, 2006 Location: tucson Posts: 56	Flyfish could you please help me date this m19-3. ser#4k26xxx Thanks for any help-ken

October 12, 2009, 03:24 PM	#1978
FlyFish Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Location: Overlooking the Baker River Valley Posts: 1,723	CraCZ: Your 19-3 dates from 1973. Pensrollei: 1. 1971-72. 2. I wouldn't fire +P+ ammo in any of my guns as it doesn't necessarily meet SAAMI specs for peak pressure, but that's me. I don't think your Model 10 is going to kaboom if you try it, but I still wouldn't recommend it. If you want another opinion, you could call S&W - my guess is they'll tell you the same (and you might get some other opinions here as well). 3. The firing pin is designed to pivot up/down but shouldn't have much movement at all side to side.

October 12, 2009, 05:01 PM	#1982
tyusclan Member Join Date: August 17, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 45	Hersir- R665xx should be ~ early 1973. The BBF prefix is July 1988. Any S&W manufactured after 1957 when model numbers were assigned can handle +p ammunition with no problem.

October 12, 2009, 06:43 PM	#1984
tyusclan Member Join Date: August 17, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 45	Strictly a guess, and I probably shouldn't do that. My apologies. You're exactly right on the serial # and year range given.

October 12, 2009, 09:33 PM	#1986
sinister1811 Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Posts: 51	Hey guys. Just came into a S&W model 25-2, serial # N734247. What is the date of manufacture and approximate value of this gun in good condition. Thanks

October 12, 2009, 09:49 PM	#1987
tyusclan Member Join Date: August 17, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 45	duramax- 1966-1967 sinister1811- 1980. The book shows good condition at $335, very good at $400.

October 12, 2009, 10:36 PM	#1988
jakeeee Junior Member Join Date: October 12, 2009 Posts: 5	hey Jim i would appreciate a little help i have been holding on to an old .38 (i think)for a few years now.i'm sure its not worth any money value...i would like to find parts for it though......the sn is 508690 no letters are before it help would be awesome

October 12, 2009, 11:20 PM	#1990
jakeeee Junior Member Join Date: October 12, 2009 Posts: 5	5 shot.i don't know gun lingo.it opens forward

October 12, 2009, 11:28 PM	#1992
jakeeee Junior Member Join Date: October 12, 2009 Posts: 5	yes....and that pin is the piece i'm missing so its in two parts

October 12, 2009, 11:31 PM	#1993
jakeeee Junior Member Join Date: October 12, 2009 Posts: 5	it looks very similiar to the pics on the top of page 33 of these posts

October 12, 2009, 11:42 PM	#1994
laytonj1 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2005 Posts: 4,443	Then with a serial number of 508690 it would be a .38 Double Action 4th Change made from 1895 to 1909 and look like this: For parts, try starting here: http://www.e-gunparts.com/productsch...ION%20REVOLVER Jim

October 12, 2009, 11:47 PM	#1995
jakeeee Junior Member Join Date: October 12, 2009 Posts: 5	thanks alot it looks like that but the barrel seems shorter...before i start taking the rust off its not a rare model or special right?

October 12, 2009, 11:52 PM	#1996
laytonj1 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2005 Posts: 4,443	If you look at the parts link I posted under the picture you can get barrels in 3, 4, 5 and 6". Value's not that high... especially if your're removing rust. Jim

October 13, 2009, 10:38 AM	#1999
Pensrollei Junior Member Join Date: October 12, 2009 Location: Augusta, Ga Posts: 3	I appreciate the responses from FlyFish and CarGuyChris. As I said, I am new and do not know the difference between +P and +P+. I will look the up. Stupid question, but does 38 Smith & Wesson Special CTG on the barrel stand for cartridge?