Antler size isn't everything.

Wild Bill Bucks · December 11, 2009, 11:50 AM

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...1&d=1260550067

This was sent to me today. Wonder what gave this deer his problem. I have never seen anything like this before. Any of you guys care to guess?

Christchild · December 11, 2009, 11:54 AM

WhiteTail-Elephantitis? I'd look into it before I'd eat (or not eat) that venison...

Scorch · December 11, 2009, 11:55 AM

Filarial worms, if I had to guess. Or watching too many kung-fu movies.

5R milspec · December 11, 2009, 01:02 PM

looks like to me with his little rack he couldn't become a dominant buck.shouldn't have shot it but pulled on his wee wee instead.then the swelling would have gone down.no reallly I have no idea on to what caused this.but one could have a feast on some mountion fries.

zahnzieh · December 12, 2009, 01:02 AM

Could his "condition" be from the shot that killed him? the one picture shows a wound just above the left ham - result of hemmorhage? i have heard of ham shots that have blown out the testicles.

remingtonva · December 12, 2009, 08:13 AM

never have i seen this in my years! I would be careful eating it. It could be a infection or something, heck I have no clue! Just I wouldnt eat the meat until you knew it wasnt a diesase. Where did you shoot the deer at?. what state?

Jim Dandy · December 12, 2009, 08:21 AM

If his testicles don't have an obvious injury, I'd certainly contact a biologist at ODWC about possibly performing a necropsy or at least examining the testicles.

Where in southeast Oklahoma was this killed?

Rembrandt · December 12, 2009, 10:20 AM

Possibly got injured while fighting another buck.....or jumping a fence?

sserdlihc · December 12, 2009, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Could his "condition" be from the shot that killed him? the one picture shows a wound just above the left ham - result of hemmorhage? i have heard of ham shots that have blown out the testicles.

That is what it looks like to me as well.

James R. Burke · December 13, 2009, 07:42 PM

Probalbly got hurt somehow. But like there saying check it out before eating.

Catfish25p2000 · December 13, 2009, 08:04 PM

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or at least examining the testicles

Yea, do that... I think he'd like that.

bcarver · December 13, 2009, 08:12 PM

He probably thought he was bullet proof!!!

GA Limited GM · December 13, 2009, 11:42 PM

No ideas but a full body mount is in order.....and a call to Ron White with new "material."

WVleo · December 14, 2009, 05:35 AM

Blue Balls ! Could not catch a doe . .........WVleo

McBuck · December 14, 2009, 11:25 AM

Not enough does

FrontSight · December 14, 2009, 11:48 AM

What are you guys talking about? I see the same proportions everytime I look down, don't you guys too?

Capt. Charlie · December 14, 2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Could his "condition" be from the shot that killed him? the one picture shows a wound just above the left ham - result of hemmorhage? i have heard of ham shots that have blown out the testicles.

I was wondering something similar. The point of impact (exit?) appears to be right above that. How long was it between the time it was shot and the time of death?

The reason I'm wondering is that, earlier this year, I had a horse seriously injured when he was kicked in the hip by another horse. Within hours, fluid build-up migrated down to the testicles, which swelled enormously. The vet said it was common in that type of injury. Could the gunshot have caused something similar?

(Edit: C'mon guys; let's get serious here.)

Dr. A · December 14, 2009, 03:39 PM

Hernia, Lyme diesease, hydrococele, varicocele, Hematococele (hematocele), Brucellosis, trauma (likely). Taking them apart with a couple of sterile gloves or taking it to your friendly large animal vet would have helped out. The spermatic cord could have been damaged and had venous flow cease. I wouldn't want to chance handling an animal that has Brucellosis. Undulant fever is a disease many vets suffered through in earlier years. This disease renders the Yellowstone bison inedible.

I've seen a bunch of deer that had edematous pouches around the neck and chest. Most folks thought it was a dreadful disease, but was simply from an isolated traumatic event they would eventually recover from. If this is the case with the testes here, I would think plain old fluid buildup would have been there. THe fluid being serum and not blood. Fluid could also be blood, pus or a combination.

December 11, 2009, 11:55 AM	#3
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Filarial worms, if I had to guess. Or watching too many kung-fu movies. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

December 11, 2009, 01:02 PM	#4
5R milspec Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 360	bull nuts on a deer looks like to me with his little rack he couldn't become a dominant buck.shouldn't have shot it but pulled on his wee wee instead.then the swelling would have gone down.no reallly I have no idea on to what caused this.but one could have a feast on some mountion fries.

December 12, 2009, 08:21 AM	#7
Jim Dandy Member Join Date: November 23, 2002 Posts: 39	If his testicles don't have an obvious injury, I'd certainly contact a biologist at ODWC about possibly performing a necropsy or at least examining the testicles. Where in southeast Oklahoma was this killed? __________________ [email protected]

December 13, 2009, 08:12 PM	#12
bcarver Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2007 Location: Jackson,Mississippi Posts: 838	nuts that size.. He probably thought he was bullet proof!!!

December 14, 2009, 11:48 AM	#16
FrontSight Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2005 Posts: 1,712	What are you guys talking about? I see the same proportions everytime I look down, don't you guys too? __________________ To kill something as great as a duck just to smell the gunpowder is a crime against nature. - Alan Liere Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. - George Bernard Shaw

December 11, 2009, 11:54 AM	#2
Christchild Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2009 Location: Loadbenchville, Bolt 02770 Posts: 544	WhiteTail-Elephantitis? I'd look into it before I'd eat (or not eat) that venison...

December 12, 2009, 01:02 AM	#5
zahnzieh Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2006 Posts: 206	Could his "condition" be from the shot that killed him? the one picture shows a wound just above the left ham - result of hemmorhage? i have heard of ham shots that have blown out the testicles.

December 12, 2009, 08:13 AM	#6
remingtonva Member Join Date: December 10, 2009 Location: virginia Posts: 28	never have i seen this in my years! I would be careful eating it. It could be a infection or something, heck I have no clue! Just I wouldnt eat the meat until you knew it wasnt a diesase. Where did you shoot the deer at?. what state?

December 12, 2009, 10:20 AM	#8
Rembrandt Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2002 Posts: 2,108	Possibly got injured while fighting another buck.....or jumping a fence?

December 13, 2009, 07:42 PM	#10
James R. Burke Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2009 Location: U.P. of Mich/Quinnesec Posts: 1,897	Probalbly got hurt somehow. But like there saying check it out before eating.

December 13, 2009, 11:42 PM	#13
GA Limited GM Member Join Date: March 27, 2008 Location: Gods Country Posts: 73	No ideas but a full body mount is in order.....and a call to Ron White with new "material."

December 14, 2009, 05:35 AM	#14
WVleo Senior Member Join Date: September 20, 2007 Posts: 127	Blue Balls ! Could not catch a doe . .........WVleo

December 14, 2009, 11:25 AM	#15
McBuck Member Join Date: December 13, 2009 Location: West Slope of the Blue Ridge Posts: 19	Not enough does

December 14, 2009, 03:39 PM	#18
Dr. A Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2007 Location: Salina, KS. Posts: 215	Hernia, Lyme diesease, hydrococele, varicocele, Hematococele (hematocele), Brucellosis, trauma (likely). Taking them apart with a couple of sterile gloves or taking it to your friendly large animal vet would have helped out. The spermatic cord could have been damaged and had venous flow cease. I wouldn't want to chance handling an animal that has Brucellosis. Undulant fever is a disease many vets suffered through in earlier years. This disease renders the Yellowstone bison inedible. I've seen a bunch of deer that had edematous pouches around the neck and chest. Most folks thought it was a dreadful disease, but was simply from an isolated traumatic event they would eventually recover from. If this is the case with the testes here, I would think plain old fluid buildup would have been there. THe fluid being serum and not blood. Fluid could also be blood, pus or a combination. Last edited by Dr. A; December 14, 2009 at 04:02 PM.

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