Advice needed.....

SuperDave · October 24, 2000, 11:32 PM

I need (want) a shotgun .

It will mainly be used for IDPA side matches , not house duty . Where I believe the 870 is king . I believe an auto loader is the best for competition . I like the 11-87 police , but am concerned about reliability problems with lighter loads .

I like the Super90 but a little pricey and there are alot of people that Poo Poo them .

I like ScatterGun Tech. autos but even more $$$ .
What would you guys recomend .....

Dave McC · October 25, 2000, 05:46 AM

Maybe a used 1100 is the ticket here, SuperDave. Not real easy to find, most folks hang on to them, but very durable and reliable.

Schmit · October 25, 2000, 07:01 AM

Dave,

Take a look at the Beretta 1201FP. I'm not sure what they are going for these days but I got mine way back when for about .50% the price of a Benelli. Love mine, and everyone I know that has one love their's.

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Schmit
GySgt, USMC(Ret)
NRA Life, Lodge 1201-UOSSS
"Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"

General Tso · October 25, 2000, 10:15 AM

Yeah, the Beretta might be something to look into. A fairly large local PD just switched over from 870's to the Beretta and they love them. Admittedly they're likely using heavier buck and slug loads though. Not sure how the lighter loads cycle.

This months "Guns and Weapons for law Enforcement" has an article on them too although I ahven'y gotten to it yet.

Last time I priced them they were in the mid $600's, just a bit more than the 11-87.

I don't know how much you'd gain by getting an 1100. As Dave said they aren't all that easy to find anymore and not all that cheap either. Unless you want to use a 28" vent rib gun with a short mag tube you're going to have to do some retrofitting to one anyway before using it for IDPA so there's an additional cost factor involved there too.

patrickt66 · October 25, 2000, 09:27 PM

SuperDave,
Schmit and General Tso are right. I've had my 1201 for a year and a half now and love it. It has been reliable with slugs, 00 buck, and 7 1/2 field loads. I've used it for competition, took a 200 lb. boar with it, and even shot skeet with it once! It's surprisingly accurate with slugs and recoil is very manageable. Mine has the 20" barrel instead of the 18", I felt it would be more versatile. Got it used for $450 and have seen others offered for the same range. Feel free to E-mail me with any questions about it.
Patrick

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Think!

Schmit · October 26, 2000, 06:57 AM

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Erick
Junior Member
Lodge 1201
UOSSS[/quote]

Hehehe... when the hell you going to get the Lodge cleaned up Boot?! It's filthy!

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Schmit
GySgt, USMC(Ret)
NRA Life, Lodge 1201-UOSSS
"Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"

jthuang · October 26, 2000, 07:16 AM

The 1201FP is a good buy IMHO. Buddy of mine bought one with rifle sights, NIB, for $459 at a local gun show.

Justin

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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

General Tso · October 26, 2000, 02:37 PM

Those are much better prices than I recalled but it's been a while since I looked at them. I'm probably remembering wrong. Hmm, under $500 huh? I may have to add one back on to my shotgun wish list....

SuperDave · October 26, 2000, 11:16 PM

Thanks for your input guys....
They did have a used 1201FP for $549...

I went with the 11-87Police....
Just felt better...

Intel6 · October 27, 2000, 07:47 PM

Great choice SuperDave!

I love my 11-87P, great shotgun! I like it so much my Benelli M3 Super 90 stays in the safe.

October 24, 2000, 11:32 PM	#1
SuperDave Junior Member Join Date: October 22, 2000 Posts: 12	I need (want) a shotgun . It will mainly be used for IDPA side matches , not house duty . Where I believe the 870 is king . I believe an auto loader is the best for competition . I like the 11-87 police , but am concerned about reliability problems with lighter loads . I like the Super90 but a little pricey and there are alot of people that Poo Poo them . I like ScatterGun Tech. autos but even more $$$ . What would you guys recomend .....

October 25, 2000, 05:46 AM	#2
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	Maybe a used 1100 is the ticket here, SuperDave. Not real easy to find, most folks hang on to them, but very durable and reliable.

October 25, 2000, 07:01 AM	#3
Schmit Staff Alumnus Join Date: March 11, 1999 Location: Masquito infested flatlands of Mid-FL Posts: 1,857	Dave, Take a look at the Beretta 1201FP. I'm not sure what they are going for these days but I got mine way back when for about .50% the price of a Benelli. Love mine, and everyone I know that has one love their's. ------------------ Schmit GySgt, USMC(Ret) NRA Life, Lodge 1201-UOSSS "Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"

October 25, 2000, 10:15 AM	#4
General Tso Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2000 Posts: 133	Yeah, the Beretta might be something to look into. A fairly large local PD just switched over from 870's to the Beretta and they love them. Admittedly they're likely using heavier buck and slug loads though. Not sure how the lighter loads cycle. This months "Guns and Weapons for law Enforcement" has an article on them too although I ahven'y gotten to it yet. Last time I priced them they were in the mid $600's, just a bit more than the 11-87. I don't know how much you'd gain by getting an 1100. As Dave said they aren't all that easy to find anymore and not all that cheap either. Unless you want to use a 28" vent rib gun with a short mag tube you're going to have to do some retrofitting to one anyway before using it for IDPA so there's an additional cost factor involved there too.

October 25, 2000, 09:27 PM	#5
patrickt66 Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2000 Posts: 115	SuperDave, Schmit and General Tso are right. I've had my 1201 for a year and a half now and love it. It has been reliable with slugs, 00 buck, and 7 1/2 field loads. I've used it for competition, took a 200 lb. boar with it, and even shot skeet with it once! It's surprisingly accurate with slugs and recoil is very manageable. Mine has the 20" barrel instead of the 18", I felt it would be more versatile. Got it used for $450 and have seen others offered for the same range. Feel free to E-mail me with any questions about it. Patrick ------------------ Think!

October 26, 2000, 06:57 AM	#6
Schmit Staff Alumnus Join Date: March 11, 1999 Location: Masquito infested flatlands of Mid-FL Posts: 1,857	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Erick Junior Member Lodge 1201 UOSSS[/quote] Hehehe... when the hell you going to get the Lodge cleaned up Boot?! It's filthy! ------------------ Schmit GySgt, USMC(Ret) NRA Life, Lodge 1201-UOSSS "Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"

October 26, 2000, 07:16 AM	#7
jthuang Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2000 Posts: 823	The 1201FP is a good buy IMHO. Buddy of mine bought one with rifle sights, NIB, for $459 at a local gun show. Justin ------------------ Justin T. Huang, Esq. late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

October 26, 2000, 02:37 PM	#8
General Tso Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2000 Posts: 133	Those are much better prices than I recalled but it's been a while since I looked at them. I'm probably remembering wrong. Hmm, under $500 huh? I may have to add one back on to my shotgun wish list....

October 26, 2000, 11:16 PM	#9
SuperDave Junior Member Join Date: October 22, 2000 Posts: 12	Thanks for your input guys.... They did have a used 1201FP for $549... I went with the 11-87Police.... Just felt better...

October 27, 2000, 07:47 PM	#10
Intel6 Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2000 Posts: 425	Great choice SuperDave! I love my 11-87P, great shotgun! I like it so much my Benelli M3 Super 90 stays in the safe.