cost of reloading

shiroikuma · March 31, 2002, 03:01 AM

..never mind the inability to format anything is making this a pain in the ...... you know.

grrrrrr..

Shoney · March 31, 2002, 07:15 AM

.......that is to say when it comes to this it really is I feel your pain in the clarity of communications.........you know.

No! I dont know! Say what?

czhead · March 31, 2002, 10:51 AM

Shiro, what in the world are you talking about?
I think you need to get back over the CZFORUM where we can understand your posts?

Steve Smith · March 31, 2002, 11:19 AM

...walk softly, and carry a little confusion....

???

Gewehr98 · March 31, 2002, 11:23 AM

He has been "stricken with tongue".

C.R.Sam · March 31, 2002, 11:37 AM

Don't try to confuse me, I came that way.

I saw the original post and figured there would be a follow up that put it all together.

That's what I get for figuring.

Sam

sricciardelli · March 31, 2002, 12:38 PM

The problem is: he posted a formatted table of reloading costs, but when saved it took out all the "extra" spaces and ended up being a blob of numbers...

He should have used the "list" command...

Powder cost     Primer cost    Bullet cost
$18.00               $12.00          &nbsp$7.00
$18.00               $12.00          &nbsp$7.00
$18.00               $12.00          &nbsp$7.00

And it would have looked something like the above...

Instead it looked like this:

Powder cost Primer cost Bullet cost
$18.00 $12.00 $7.00
$18.00 $12.00 $7.00
$18.00 $12.00 $7.00

shiroikuma · March 31, 2002, 02:40 PM

Yes he did and using the list formating option looked like it would take me about 1/2 a year to reenter the data I had stuffed into an excel spreadsheet...NO THANKS.

So I made my own html page on another site and if you want to see the costs broken down for up to 5K rounds ( I made this for kicks and to help people understand the benifts, if any, of reloading cost wise. I expect some will disagree with some of the assumptions but hey they are just a guidline to help new folks out.

http://shiroikuma.50megs.com/reload.htm

Unfortuntely the page starts to repeat itself after the 9mm section so stop after that. I'm not wasting more time editing the source code if MS office won't save it correctly.

By the way this thread has already recieved more replies than most of the other ones I've started. He he.

shiro

C.R.Sam · March 31, 2002, 03:10 PM

Tis human nature to slow down and watch train wrecks.

Your perserverence in the face of chaos is commendable.

And, thanks for going to the effort to present the info.

Sam.....still confused, normal.

Guy B. Meredith · March 31, 2002, 06:17 PM

Wow! My costs for .38 spl doing about 850 fps with 158 gr copper plated bullet are something like the following:

AA#5: $102.00/8lb, $13.00/lb
158gr .38cal CPRN WCB bullets: $409/10,000, $53.00/1000 (shipping included)
Starline .38 spl brass: $100/1000 (high estimate with shipping--can't find receipt)
WSP: $75/5000 (up from $65 last year!!)

Taxes included.

Per round this comes out to about
Powder 1.2 cents (6.6 gr)
Bullet 4.1 cents
Primer 1.5 cents

Estimating brass will last at least 5 loads to be conservative, cost is 2 cents.

That is 8.8 cents per round or $4.40 per 50 or $88/1000 loaded to my specs. I may go back to AA#2 which is the same price, but requires only 4.8 gr per round taking the cost down to 4.25 per 50 or $85/1000.

shiroikuma · March 31, 2002, 07:54 PM

Keep in mind that I live in Alaska and I can't order bulk bullets as shipping would kill me. I have to buy primers, powder and bullets locally.

Besides it is just a rough estimate.

my estimated costs were $5.30/ 50 in 9mm (not counting brass costs)

I used 1 lb of titegroup per 1,000 in my estimate I think using 5.0 grains per cartridge with 7,000 grains a lb it's actually 1400 reloads a pound so cost would be a little lower actually. Were you calculating with copper bullets? I think my prices were for copper plated ones.

You really bank the money on the more expensive ammo like .45 win mag, 44 mag or 10mm. Those pay to reload. I almost never see any centerfire other than 9mm for less than $11/ 50 here.

Guy B. Meredith · March 31, 2002, 08:25 PM

shiroikuma

Yes, I use copper plated bullets exclusively. I'm too lazy to clean out lead. If I took a deep breath and ordered 20K copper plated bullets from West Coast bullets the price would go down to 3.8 cents per bullet. I live in the SF Bay area so shipping is minimal. The bullets themselves are $350/10,000 in lots of 10K or more, the shipping for up to 20,000 is about $50.

Guy

Bompa · March 31, 2002, 08:46 PM

Shiro..
How about Barry's Bullets,they say shipping is included in the price..I know that they ship cross country so maybe they will ship to Alaska..Check out there web site..
www.berrysmfg.com
Check with Kev they are made in his part of the world..
Henry

shiroikuma · March 31, 2002, 09:47 PM

Thanks Bompa but as Barry's says on their page

"Free Shipping!! Retail orders are shipped FREE to the continental US!"

That leave AK and HI out in the cold or warm tropical breezes whichever.

They all say that.

I fixed a couple of errors on the page just now and added .45 acp for giggles. The nice thing about doing a spreadsheet is you can change any variable like bullet cost and it recalculates everything in a 1/2 second.

shiro

March 31, 2002, 03:01 AM	#1
shiroikuma Senior Member Join Date: June 27, 2000 Posts: 331	cost of reloading ..never mind the inability to format anything is making this a pain in the ...... you know. grrrrrr.. __________________ Visit http://www.czforum.com

March 31, 2002, 10:51 AM	#3
czhead Member Join Date: February 12, 2002 Location: Plano, Tx Posts: 29	HUH ? Shiro, what in the world are you talking about? I think you need to get back over the CZFORUM where we can understand your posts?

March 31, 2002, 11:19 AM	#4
Steve Smith Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 1999 Posts: 4,131	...walk softly, and carry a little confusion.... ??? __________________ Favor the X. Steve Smith NRA Life Member

March 31, 2002, 12:38 PM	#7
sricciardelli Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2001 Location: Montana Posts: 489	The problem is: he posted a formatted table of reloading costs, but when saved it took out all the "extra" spaces and ended up being a blob of numbers... He should have used the "list" command... Powder cost     Primer cost    Bullet cost $18.00               $12.00          &nbsp$7.00 $18.00               $12.00          &nbsp$7.00 $18.00               $12.00          &nbsp$7.00 And it would have looked something like the above... Instead it looked like this: Powder cost Primer cost Bullet cost $18.00 $12.00 $7.00 $18.00 $12.00 $7.00 $18.00 $12.00 $7.00 __________________ http://stevespages.com/page8.htm

March 31, 2002, 02:40 PM	#8
shiroikuma Senior Member Join Date: June 27, 2000 Posts: 331	Yes he did and using the list formating option looked like it would take me about 1/2 a year to reenter the data I had stuffed into an excel spreadsheet...NO THANKS. So I made my own html page on another site and if you want to see the costs broken down for up to 5K rounds ( I made this for kicks and to help people understand the benifts, if any, of reloading cost wise. I expect some will disagree with some of the assumptions but hey they are just a guidline to help new folks out. http://shiroikuma.50megs.com/reload.htm Unfortuntely the page starts to repeat itself after the 9mm section so stop after that. I'm not wasting more time editing the source code if MS office won't save it correctly. By the way this thread has already recieved more replies than most of the other ones I've started. He he. shiro __________________ Visit http://www.czforum.com

March 31, 2002, 07:15 AM	#2
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	.......that is to say when it comes to this it really is I feel your pain in the clarity of communications.........you know. No! I dont know! Say what?

March 31, 2002, 11:23 AM	#5
Gewehr98 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2000 Location: Token Creek, WI Posts: 4,067	In the words of Robin Williams... He has been "stricken with tongue". __________________ "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Neural Misfires

March 31, 2002, 11:37 AM	#6
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Don't try to confuse me, I came that way. I saw the original post and figured there would be a follow up that put it all together. That's what I get for figuring. Sam

March 31, 2002, 03:10 PM	#9
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Tis human nature to slow down and watch train wrecks. Your perserverence in the face of chaos is commendable. And, thanks for going to the effort to present the info. Sam.....still confused, normal.

March 31, 2002, 06:17 PM	#10
Guy B. Meredith Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 1999 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 1,581	Wow! My costs for .38 spl doing about 850 fps with 158 gr copper plated bullet are something like the following: AA#5: $102.00/8lb, $13.00/lb 158gr .38cal CPRN WCB bullets: $409/10,000, $53.00/1000 (shipping included) Starline .38 spl brass: $100/1000 (high estimate with shipping--can't find receipt) WSP: $75/5000 (up from $65 last year!!) Taxes included. Per round this comes out to about Powder 1.2 cents (6.6 gr) Bullet 4.1 cents Primer 1.5 cents Estimating brass will last at least 5 loads to be conservative, cost is 2 cents. That is 8.8 cents per round or $4.40 per 50 or $88/1000 loaded to my specs. I may go back to AA#2 which is the same price, but requires only 4.8 gr per round taking the cost down to 4.25 per 50 or $85/1000.

March 31, 2002, 07:54 PM	#11
shiroikuma Senior Member Join Date: June 27, 2000 Posts: 331	Keep in mind that I live in Alaska and I can't order bulk bullets as shipping would kill me. I have to buy primers, powder and bullets locally. Besides it is just a rough estimate. my estimated costs were $5.30/ 50 in 9mm (not counting brass costs) I used 1 lb of titegroup per 1,000 in my estimate I think using 5.0 grains per cartridge with 7,000 grains a lb it's actually 1400 reloads a pound so cost would be a little lower actually. Were you calculating with copper bullets? I think my prices were for copper plated ones. You really bank the money on the more expensive ammo like .45 win mag, 44 mag or 10mm. Those pay to reload. I almost never see any centerfire other than 9mm for less than $11/ 50 here. __________________ Visit http://www.czforum.com

March 31, 2002, 08:25 PM	#12
Guy B. Meredith Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 1999 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 1,581	shiroikuma Yes, I use copper plated bullets exclusively. I'm too lazy to clean out lead. If I took a deep breath and ordered 20K copper plated bullets from West Coast bullets the price would go down to 3.8 cents per bullet. I live in the SF Bay area so shipping is minimal. The bullets themselves are $350/10,000 in lots of 10K or more, the shipping for up to 20,000 is about $50. Guy

March 31, 2002, 08:46 PM	#13
Bompa Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: western Mass. Posts: 135	Shiro.. How about Barry's Bullets,they say shipping is included in the price..I know that they ship cross country so maybe they will ship to Alaska..Check out there web site.. www.berrysmfg.com Check with Kev they are made in his part of the world.. Henry

March 31, 2002, 09:47 PM	#14
shiroikuma Senior Member Join Date: June 27, 2000 Posts: 331	Thanks Bompa but as Barry's says on their page "Free Shipping!! Retail orders are shipped FREE to the continental US!" That leave AK and HI out in the cold or warm tropical breezes whichever. They all say that. I fixed a couple of errors on the page just now and added .45 acp for giggles. The nice thing about doing a spreadsheet is you can change any variable like bullet cost and it recalculates everything in a 1/2 second. shiro __________________ Visit http://www.czforum.com Last edited by shiroikuma; March 31, 2002 at 10:56 PM.