I feel like a proud papa,,,

aarondhgraham · December 5, 2014, 12:02 PM

Tomorrow morning a young lady I introduced to handgun shooting,,,
Will be taking the class towards obtaining her carry permit.

I'm loaning her a Bersa Thunder 22 and 100 rounds of Mini-Mags,,,
She likes revolvers much better but doesn't want a permit limited to revolvers only.

When we first started she had never touched a handgun,,,
Now after only a few months she is scary proficient with my model 36 snubbie.

The funny thing about that is she has never used it in single action,,,
She can burn five fast shots in a 4" circle at Tueller's 21 feet,,,
If she shoots slower she can keep them all in a 2" circle.

For Christmas her step-dad is paying for half of her chosen handgun,,,
She has picked out the S&W 442 in .38 as her gun.

Another one on our side,,,

Aarond

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lifesizepotato · December 5, 2014, 01:46 PM

I've found women learn marksmanship pretty quickly,,,
Probably because they don't have an ego to get in the way of instruction,,,
The women I've taught take to it pretty easily,,,
Although they don't usually enjoy much recoil.

,,... -!,

Potato.

redhologram · December 5, 2014, 02:03 PM

Fabulous! I love hearing when we get another female on board! Best of luck to her!!!

**Spats McGee** · December 5, 2014, 02:51 PM

You're a good man, aarondgraham, and you should feel like a proud papa!

Cyanide971 · December 5, 2014, 03:44 PM

Outstanding!

jglsprings · December 5, 2014, 07:08 PM

Good work.

PatientWolf · December 5, 2014, 07:49 PM

Aaron,

I believe I've said it before, but you are a good person. I'm very happy you are able to help a new generation better understand the potential of firearms and to help them understand what an important Right they are.

lefteye · December 5, 2014, 09:04 PM

Congratulations and thank you Proud Papa.

feets · December 6, 2014, 03:19 PM

Good job!

Have her take the 442 to a smith for a good trigger job. She does not need to lighten the springs.
Smoothing out the action will make the gun feel crisp and clean. My 642 needed serious attention when I ordered it.

lee n. field · December 7, 2014, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Have her take the 442 to a smith for a good trigger job. She does not need to lighten the springs.
Smoothing out the action will make the gun feel crisp and clean. My 642 needed serious attention when I ordered it.

Dry fire, X 1000. Then she should decide if she needs to do anything about the trigger.

jaytothekizzay · December 7, 2014, 06:37 PM

I took my wife shooting recently, it was her first time. Loaded up the 226, and gave her a basic lesson. She then put the loaded mag in, sling shot the weapon and away she went.
Had a standard shillouette target set up at 7 yards. She shot the whole mag, with a very nice group centered right in the chest area. I told her "thats some great shooting, for a first timer", I said, "you are a real natural. "
She looked at me with a half smile grin and said, " I was aiming for the head..."
Oh well if that were a bad guy he'd be dead anyway... lol

Microgunner · December 7, 2014, 06:49 PM

Good work Aarond.

T. O'Heir · December 8, 2014, 02:05 PM

"...I've found women learn..." Yep. They pay attention, are far easier to teach, do what you tell 'em and don't think they're "natural shots" or John Wayne. Highly unlikely you'll ever hear one say, "I'm good in (insert PC game here)." either.

aarondhgraham · December 8, 2014, 03:45 PM

Thanks for the good thoughts gentlemen,,,
It is greatly appreciated.

I looked up from my desk to see a very happy young lady,,,
Courtney just appeared at my office door,,,
Holding her Certificate of Completion.

She passed the written and practical test with no problem,,,
Now it's just getting a passport picture taken,,,
And submitting her application.

She should be licensed in about 60 -70 days from now.

One more lady who refuses to be a passive victim.

Aarond

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Microgunner · December 8, 2014, 05:30 PM

And the balance tips a little bit more in our favor.

Bob M. · December 8, 2014, 05:57 PM

Nice going, Aarond. Now she needs to join this forum to share her accomplishments.

redhologram · December 9, 2014, 02:26 PM

Congrats to her!

**Spats McGee** · December 9, 2014, 03:05 PM

Yes, please give her our heartfelt congratulations!

Shadi Khalil · December 10, 2014, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Have her take the 442 to a smith for a good trigger job. She does not need to lighten the springs.
Smoothing out the action will make the gun feel crisp and clean. My 642 needed serious attention when I ordered it.

I would have to respectfully disagree. I think the S&W J-frame trigger is perfectly fine the way it comes. It takes a lot of practice and determination to get it down but its well worth it. It's true, the trigger does get better with use but it fine out of the box. The other great thing about mastering the j-frame trigger is once you master it, you can handle most other triggers out there.

aarondhgraham · December 10, 2014, 01:22 PM

She likes the look and feel of the 442,,,
But it's not set in stone that she will get one,,,

I'm trying to keep my personal prejudices out of the decision mix,,,
So I'm not recommending any one handgun over the other,,,
Except to steer her away from Charter, Taurus, & Rossi.

In this case the price difference is negligible,,,
So there's no reason to cheap out.

She has fired my RB model 36 snubbie,,,
As well as my 3" SB model 36,,,
She did better with the 3".

And she took to DA shooting like a duck to water.

If it wasn't one of my very favorite ladies,,,
I would have the hammer bobbed and sell her my 3" model 36.

BTW, The very same Saturday she was taking the class,,,
I started another young lady on the path

Life is good.

Aarond

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feets · December 10, 2014, 09:39 PM

Quote:

I would have to respectfully disagree. I think the S&W J-frame trigger is perfectly fine the way it comes. It takes a lot of practice and determination to get it down but its well worth it. It's true, the trigger does get better with use but it fine out of the box. The other great thing about mastering the j-frame trigger is once you master it, you can handle most other triggers out there.

Shadi,
My 642 maxed out a 12 pound trigger gauge. It's a hammerless DA only gun.

Do you care to rethink your statement?

Shadi Khalil · December 27, 2014, 09:59 PM

Nope.

**Aguila Blanca** · December 28, 2014, 01:14 AM

Bravo Zulu

Old Stony · December 28, 2014, 06:15 AM

The J frame is not a target gun to play with and I would leave the trigger stock. More J frames are screwed up by lightning springs than those that are helped by it. I wouldn't want a misfire on a revolver a person depended on. With the addition of a little adrenalin, the trigger pull will seem very light in stock configuration...and it will fire as intended.

rodfac · December 28, 2014, 06:48 AM

Geez Aarond...how's come you always get the 'young ladies' to train...I can't seem to lure them out my way and have to settle for my own age bracket...let's just say 55 to 75!

I'd conservatively estimate that half the reloading I do is for my daughter's in law and sons, a cpl grand-kids, plus a few selected friends that trust my loading. It's money well spent and I charge 'em a penny a shot, just to to reinforce the notion that there's no free lunch...anywhere.

No matter tho, young or old, any new shooter we bring to the fold is another voter helping to protect the 2nd Amendment.

Well done, friend...Rod

December 5, 2014, 12:02 PM	#1
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	I feel like a proud papa,,, Tomorrow morning a young lady I introduced to handgun shooting,,, Will be taking the class towards obtaining her carry permit. I'm loaning her a Bersa Thunder 22 and 100 rounds of Mini-Mags,,, She likes revolvers much better but doesn't want a permit limited to revolvers only. When we first started she had never touched a handgun,,, Now after only a few months she is scary proficient with my model 36 snubbie. The funny thing about that is she has never used it in single action,,, She can burn five fast shots in a 4" circle at Tueller's 21 feet,,, If she shoots slower she can keep them all in a 2" circle. For Christmas her step-dad is paying for half of her chosen handgun,,, She has picked out the S&W 442 in .38 as her gun. Another one on our side,,, Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

December 5, 2014, 02:51 PM	#4
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	You're a good man, aarondgraham, and you should feel like a proud papa! __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

December 5, 2014, 07:08 PM	#6
jglsprings Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2009 Posts: 1,827	Good work. __________________ Let's eat Grandma. Let's eat, Grandma. Commas save lives...

December 5, 2014, 09:04 PM	#8
lefteye Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2006 Posts: 1,433	Congratulations and thank you Proud Papa. __________________ Vietnam Veteran ('69-'70) NRA Life Member RMEF Life Member

December 7, 2014, 06:49 PM	#12
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,324	Good work Aarond. __________________ *Proud NRA Benefactor Member*

December 5, 2014, 01:46 PM	#2
lifesizepotato Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Posts: 210	I've found women learn marksmanship pretty quickly,,, Probably because they don't have an ego to get in the way of instruction,,, The women I've taught take to it pretty easily,,, Although they don't usually enjoy much recoil. ,,... -!, Potato.

December 5, 2014, 02:03 PM	#3
redhologram Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2013 Posts: 352	Fabulous! I love hearing when we get another female on board! Best of luck to her!!!

December 5, 2014, 03:44 PM	#5
Cyanide971 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2014 Posts: 726	Outstanding!

December 5, 2014, 07:49 PM	#7
PatientWolf Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Location: NC Posts: 947	Aaron, I believe I've said it before, but you are a good person. I'm very happy you are able to help a new generation better understand the potential of firearms and to help them understand what an important Right they are.

December 6, 2014, 03:19 PM	#9
feets Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2008 Posts: 560	Good job! Have her take the 442 to a smith for a good trigger job. She does not need to lighten the springs. Smoothing out the action will make the gun feel crisp and clean. My 642 needed serious attention when I ordered it.

December 7, 2014, 06:37 PM	#11
jaytothekizzay Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2008 Location: st. louis Posts: 450	I took my wife shooting recently, it was her first time. Loaded up the 226, and gave her a basic lesson. She then put the loaded mag in, sling shot the weapon and away she went. Had a standard shillouette target set up at 7 yards. She shot the whole mag, with a very nice group centered right in the chest area. I told her "thats some great shooting, for a first timer", I said, "you are a real natural. " She looked at me with a half smile grin and said, " I was aiming for the head..." Oh well if that were a bad guy he'd be dead anyway... lol

December 8, 2014, 02:05 PM	#13
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	"...I've found women learn..." Yep. They pay attention, are far easier to teach, do what you tell 'em and don't think they're "natural shots" or John Wayne. Highly unlikely you'll ever hear one say, "I'm good in (insert PC game here)." either. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

December 8, 2014, 03:45 PM	#14
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	Success! Thanks for the good thoughts gentlemen,,, It is greatly appreciated. I looked up from my desk to see a very happy young lady,,, Courtney just appeared at my office door,,, Holding her Certificate of Completion. She passed the written and practical test with no problem,,, Now it's just getting a passport picture taken,,, And submitting her application. She should be licensed in about 60 -70 days from now. One more lady who refuses to be a passive victim. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

December 8, 2014, 05:30 PM	#15
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,324	And the balance tips a little bit more in our favor. __________________ *Proud NRA Benefactor Member*

December 8, 2014, 05:57 PM	#16
Bob M. Member Join Date: May 27, 2007 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 47	Great!! Nice going, Aarond. Now she needs to join this forum to share her accomplishments.

December 9, 2014, 02:26 PM	#17
redhologram Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2013 Posts: 352	Congrats to her!

December 9, 2014, 03:05 PM	#18
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	Yes, please give her our heartfelt congratulations! __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

December 10, 2014, 01:22 PM	#20
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	The 442 isn't set in stone as yet,,, She likes the look and feel of the 442,,, But it's not set in stone that she will get one,,, I'm trying to keep my personal prejudices out of the decision mix,,, So I'm not recommending any one handgun over the other,,, Except to steer her away from Charter, Taurus, & Rossi. In this case the price difference is negligible,,, So there's no reason to cheap out. She has fired my RB model 36 snubbie,,, As well as my 3" SB model 36,,, She did better with the 3". And she took to DA shooting like a duck to water. If it wasn't one of my very favorite ladies,,, I would have the hammer bobbed and sell her my 3" model 36. BTW, The very same Saturday she was taking the class,,, I started another young lady on the path Life is good. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

December 27, 2014, 09:59 PM	#22
Shadi Khalil Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 5,210	Nope.

December 28, 2014, 01:14 AM	#23
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,473	Bravo Zulu

December 28, 2014, 06:15 AM	#24
Old Stony Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2013 Location: East Texas Posts: 1,705	The J frame is not a target gun to play with and I would leave the trigger stock. More J frames are screwed up by lightning springs than those that are helped by it. I wouldn't want a misfire on a revolver a person depended on. With the addition of a little adrenalin, the trigger pull will seem very light in stock configuration...and it will fire as intended.

December 28, 2014, 06:48 AM	#25
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,624	Geez Aarond...how's come you always get the 'young ladies' to train...I can't seem to lure them out my way and have to settle for my own age bracket...let's just say 55 to 75! I'd conservatively estimate that half the reloading I do is for my daughter's in law and sons, a cpl grand-kids, plus a few selected friends that trust my loading. It's money well spent and I charge 'em a penny a shot, just to to reinforce the notion that there's no free lunch...anywhere. No matter tho, young or old, any new shooter we bring to the fold is another voter helping to protect the 2nd Amendment. Well done, friend...Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73.