Why 5 Rounds? - Page 2

MFitz · May 18, 2016, 03:13 PM

Sorta reminds me of the age-old question of why Hot Dogs and Hot Dog Buns are sold in different quantities.

g.willikers · May 18, 2016, 03:21 PM

Because it's easier to do arithmetic by fives than sixes or sevens or just about anything else?

KMAX · May 18, 2016, 05:42 PM

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Sorta reminds me of the age-old question of why Hot Dogs and Hot Dog Buns are sold in different quantities.

Jeez! That is so when you grill them you have one to munch on and one to drop to the dog.

As to the 50 round boxes, why do you think the number would be based on six round revolvers?

spacecoast · May 18, 2016, 05:58 PM

60 rounds in a box would make a lot more sense. Evenly divisible by 5 or by 6 (or by 10 or 12). They would probably sell more of it too.

**Mike Irwin** · May 18, 2016, 07:07 PM

Except that the Lee Met ford went out in the 1890s and the British were still packaging in 48 round boxes after World War II, and clipped rifle ammo was available not long after 1900.

methinks the later boxers were for something else.

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James K · May 18, 2016, 08:05 PM

Just a note to say I checked and at least around here, both hot dogs and hot dog buns come in packages of 8. A few meat companies pack the small hot dogs in packages of 10, but they are the exception.

Hamburger buns come in packages of 8.

Jim

Doc Holliday 1950 · May 18, 2016, 08:12 PM

Have to make my original post clearer. I was more interested in only when I go to my range to practice, I'll go through 100-200 rounds of 38spec+Ps & 357mags
switching from a LCR357 to my SP101 finally my GP100. Since they are all 357mags, I can quickly load and reload. I can fire 357's all day with the GP.(6)
Also can fire 357's in my SP101(5) (it's a real challenge) but mostly 38 sp.P+ & 38 specP+in the LCR(5).

If Hornady or Remington or Speer, etc. had boxes of 30 or 60 or 240, I wouldn't hesitate in buying them. If enough members or enough people started requesting the addition of multiples of 6, they would do it. " Money talks and nobody walks".
IMHO, I think that most everyone here can do math in multiples of 6 just as easily as 5's. Again though if enough people asked for the ammo mfgs.to add a line of ammo in multiples of 6 it would happen.
Forgot to add that the Hot Dog/Bun analogy was a great choice.

Jim Watson · May 19, 2016, 12:09 AM

Since I reload all my range ammo, dump it in a box or bag and "count" by weight, the box size of the High Priced Spread is not a factor in my shooting.

old bear · May 19, 2016, 06:44 AM

Doc, you just asked one of the classic marketing questions of all time. Now ask yourself why there are 12 hotdogs in a package, but only 8 hot buns in a package. The only officers I remember who carried five shot revolvers were working in plain clothes, or were carrying these as a back up.

CajunBass · May 21, 2016, 01:41 AM

I solved the problem easily. I only load five rounds. Doesn't matter what the capacity is. I load five, shoot five. Nice and even.

JimPage · May 21, 2016, 07:05 AM

I dump boxes of ammo into a plastic jar with a screw on cover. When it's about half full, I buy more ammo. I dump it into a separate, similar container. The counting of so many rounds is just too danged hard for this old coot. The containers are about two quart sizes.

ballardw · May 22, 2016, 07:05 AM

Not that I'm claiming any connection but 50 is 7 seven-round magazines (1911 original) plus one in the chamber.

Many 22 semi's have 10 round magazines, no problem with 50 round boxes.

45_auto · May 22, 2016, 07:25 AM

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If enough members or enough people started requesting the addition of multiples of 6, they would do it. " Money talks and nobody walks".

If enough members or enough people started requesting the addition of multiples of 11.25 (I would figure the case as .25, the primer as .25, the powder as .25, and the bullet as .25 for when your multiples don't come out to whole numbers) they would do it. As you say, money talks.

Unfortunately for you, it appears that there are not enough people interested in multiples of 6 or multiples of 11.25 to make it worth anyone's investment.

Carmady · May 22, 2016, 10:36 AM

If you want multiples of six, send me the two extra rounds. Forty-eight for you, two for me. No need to wait for the manufacturers to regroup.

mavracer · May 22, 2016, 11:36 AM

Your right in today's world we need to cater to all the mamby pamby winey butt crybabies all revolver ammo should be packaged in 840 round boxes that way no matter if you have a 5,6,7 or 8 shot revolver it'll come out even.

come on man!!!

Boncrayon · May 22, 2016, 03:00 PM

Shooters do not have to do math in ammo purchases. When the manufacturer produces boxes of ammo, they are not trying to make even numbers to satisfy every revolver out there, only the most efficient stacking in the boxes in 25, 50, 100, etc.

Cheapshooter · May 22, 2016, 05:42 PM

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Doc, you just asked one of the classic marketing questions of all time. Now ask yourself why there are 12 hotdogs in a package, but only 8 hot buns in a package.

The dogs and buns I buy all come in 8's. Have been that way for quite some time.
My range ammo comes in 100''s. Except 22 that comes in 50, 100, 222, 325, 333, 500, 525, or 555..
I really don't care how many there are in a box. Just that they go bang.

johnwilliamson062 · May 22, 2016, 07:27 PM

If your not inviting at least 24 people over you have no business serving hotdogs.
If your not shooting up at least 6 boxes of ammo you have no business going to the range.

Cheapshooter · May 22, 2016, 07:45 PM

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only the most efficient stacking in the boxes in 25, 50, 100, etc.

Then there's Buffalo Bore that puts 20 rounds in a box big enough for 50!

Slimjim9 · May 23, 2016, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheapshooter

Then there's Buffalo Bore that puts 20 rounds in a box big enough for 50!

Hence my comment in #6.

Cowboy_mo · May 23, 2016, 07:56 PM

Just buy 3 boxes of 50. 150 is evenly divisible by both 5 & 6

I have to be smarter than a 5th grader since I have to teach them and smart aleck high schoolers on occasion

Bob Wright · June 1, 2016, 02:01 PM

One valid argument is that bulls eye target matches were fired in ten round stages, two five shot strings.

And Colt Single Action Army revolvers were best carried loaded with five rounds.

Bob Wright

ThomasT · June 1, 2016, 04:18 PM

I wish I hadn't read this thread. Now I have something else to worry about. Most Of my reloads get dumped in tubs or cans and the count written on a label. I go shoot and then don't know how many rounds are left in the can. I don't care. Now I may have to go get a count on how many rounds are left in each can. Sigh.

But the one thing I have noticed is that there sure are a lot of anal people around here. OK now I gotta go count ammo.

Don P · June 1, 2016, 04:26 PM

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I always wanted to ask this question, so weigh in everyone.
__________________

So you buy 500 rounds then it all works out

PatientWolf · June 1, 2016, 09:30 PM

6-shot revolver? Buy 6 boxes of ammo. Problem solved.

May 18, 2016, 03:21 PM	#27
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Because it's easier to do arithmetic by fives than sixes or sevens or just about anything else? __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

May 18, 2016, 08:12 PM	#32
Doc Holliday 1950 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2014 Location: Bout as south as it gets Posts: 1,238	Have to make my original post clearer. I was more interested in only when I go to my range to practice, I'll go through 100-200 rounds of 38spec+Ps & 357mags switching from a LCR357 to my SP101 finally my GP100. Since they are all 357mags, I can quickly load and reload. I can fire 357's all day with the GP.(6) Also can fire 357's in my SP101(5) (it's a real challenge) but mostly 38 sp.P+ & 38 specP+in the LCR(5). If Hornady or Remington or Speer, etc. had boxes of 30 or 60 or 240, I wouldn't hesitate in buying them. If enough members or enough people started requesting the addition of multiples of 6, they would do it. " Money talks and nobody walks". IMHO, I think that most everyone here can do math in multiples of 6 just as easily as 5's. Again though if enough people asked for the ammo mfgs.to add a line of ammo in multiples of 6 it would happen. Forgot to add that the Hot Dog/Bun analogy was a great choice. __________________ Shoot well and be Accurate, Doc

May 21, 2016, 01:41 AM	#35
CajunBass Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2005 Location: North Chesterfield, Virginia Posts: 4,767	I solved the problem easily. I only load five rounds. Doesn't matter what the capacity is. I load five, shoot five. Nice and even. __________________ For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

May 21, 2016, 07:05 AM	#36
JimPage Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2010 Location: Rome, NY Posts: 941	I dump boxes of ammo into a plastic jar with a screw on cover. When it's about half full, I buy more ammo. I dump it into a separate, similar container. The counting of so many rounds is just too danged hard for this old coot. The containers are about two quart sizes. __________________ Jim Page Cogito, ergo armatum sum

May 22, 2016, 07:05 AM	#37
ballardw Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 1,411	Not that I'm claiming any connection but 50 is 7 seven-round magazines (1911 original) plus one in the chamber. Many 22 semi's have 10 round magazines, no problem with 50 round boxes. __________________ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ All data is flawed, some just less so.

May 18, 2016, 03:13 PM	#26
MFitz Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2015 Posts: 150	Sorta reminds me of the age-old question of why Hot Dogs and Hot Dog Buns are sold in different quantities.

May 18, 2016, 05:58 PM	#29
spacecoast Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Location: Sunshine and Keystone States Posts: 4,461	60 rounds in a box would make a lot more sense. Evenly divisible by 5 or by 6 (or by 10 or 12). They would probably sell more of it too.

May 18, 2016, 07:07 PM	#30
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	Except that the Lee Met ford went out in the 1890s and the British were still packaging in 48 round boxes after World War II, and clipped rifle ammo was available not long after 1900. methinks the later boxers were for something else. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

May 18, 2016, 08:05 PM	#31
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Just a note to say I checked and at least around here, both hot dogs and hot dog buns come in packages of 8. A few meat companies pack the small hot dogs in packages of 10, but they are the exception. Hamburger buns come in packages of 8. Jim

May 19, 2016, 12:09 AM	#33
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	Since I reload all my range ammo, dump it in a box or bag and "count" by weight, the box size of the High Priced Spread is not a factor in my shooting.

May 19, 2016, 06:44 AM	#34
old bear Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2009 Location: Not close enough to the beach Posts: 1,477	Doc, you just asked one of the classic marketing questions of all time. Now ask yourself why there are 12 hotdogs in a package, but only 8 hot buns in a package. The only officers I remember who carried five shot revolvers were working in plain clothes, or were carrying these as a back up.

May 22, 2016, 10:36 AM	#39
Carmady Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: on the lam Posts: 1,735	If you want multiples of six, send me the two extra rounds. Forty-eight for you, two for me. No need to wait for the manufacturers to regroup.

May 22, 2016, 03:00 PM	#41
Boncrayon Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2008 Posts: 920	Why 5 Rounds? Shooters do not have to do math in ammo purchases. When the manufacturer produces boxes of ammo, they are not trying to make even numbers to satisfy every revolver out there, only the most efficient stacking in the boxes in 25, 50, 100, etc.

May 22, 2016, 07:27 PM	#43
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	If your not inviting at least 24 people over you have no business serving hotdogs. If your not shooting up at least 6 boxes of ammo you have no business going to the range.

May 23, 2016, 07:56 PM	#46
Cowboy_mo Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,039	Just buy 3 boxes of 50. 150 is evenly divisible by both 5 & 6 I have to be smarter than a 5th grader since I have to teach them and smart aleck high schoolers on occasion

June 1, 2016, 02:01 PM	#47
Bob Wright Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2012 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 2,989	One valid argument is that bulls eye target matches were fired in ten round stages, two five shot strings. And Colt Single Action Army revolvers were best carried loaded with five rounds. Bob Wright __________________ Time spent at the reloading bench is an investment in contentment.

June 1, 2016, 04:18 PM	#48
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,753	I wish I hadn't read this thread. Now I have something else to worry about. Most Of my reloads get dumped in tubs or cans and the count written on a label. I go shoot and then don't know how many rounds are left in the can. I don't care. Now I may have to go get a count on how many rounds are left in each can. Sigh. But the one thing I have noticed is that there sure are a lot of anal people around here. OK now I gotta go count ammo.

June 1, 2016, 09:30 PM	#50
PatientWolf Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Location: NC Posts: 946	6-shot revolver? Buy 6 boxes of ammo. Problem solved.