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Old April 8, 2014, 12:28 AM   #1
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Federal Snipers Train Guns on Family For Filming Cattle

This story hasn't received much publicity.

It's hard to imagine this happening, in of places my state of Nevada!

Absolutely no due process and "First Amendment Zone"

BLM snipers prepared to use deadly force for no apparent reason other than being somewhere filming on public land.

http://www.infowars.com/federal-snip...ilming-cattle/

This could easily turn into Ruby Ridge or Waco. If it does, I hope it has opposite the outcome.
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Old April 8, 2014, 01:39 AM   #2
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BLM snipers prepared to use deadly force for no apparent reason other than being somewhere filming on public land.
There's more to the story than that article implies.

That family has been illegally grazing cattle on the land for over 40 years, and has never paid a grazing fee in their lives. More than 25 other cattle grazers have been filing complaints about the family, for quite some time; in addition to the BLM. His "claim" to the land is nothing more than, "that's where we have taken our cows since 1877."
The father has been court-ordered to remove his cattle from the area 3 times since 1998, but adamantly refuses to comply.

But most importantly, last week he told multiple new agencies, the BLM and Forestry officials present, that he would do "whatever it took" to win the fight and stop the government from interfering with his herd or collecting their grazing fees. When asked for clarification about whether that was legal action or something else, he simply responded "whatever it takes".


So, when you have a man claiming he will do "whatever it takes" to stop government agencies from carrying out a court order, you have to assume there might be the possibility of something a little more serious than filming agents during the roundup.


Ah, hell....
You're from Nevada, you should be well aware of the situation.
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Old April 8, 2014, 05:43 AM   #3
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Here is a News video of Mr Bundy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgWkS9TnnyM

I think he said he would "Fight to the ground"?
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Old April 8, 2014, 07:01 AM   #4
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There's more to the story than that article implies.
Isn't that the way it always is with Infowars/Alex Jones?

Alex is great entertainment, but, he leaves out a lot of crucial details.
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Old April 8, 2014, 07:33 AM   #5
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The "down trodden hero" of the infowars piece thinks he has a "right" to pasture his cattle on taxpayer land for free. Now the cattle will be sold off by the feds.

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Bunkerville, Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy had issued the threat in response to a long-postponed confiscation of his cattle, which he's been grazing illegally on publicly owned Mojave desert land around Gold Butte in Clark County, Nevada since 1993.
http://www.kcet.org/news/redefine/re...al-cattle.html


Yep, it's an another sensationalistic piece from another Alex Jones clone from infowars. Infowars is not known for it's adherence to the truth.
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Old April 8, 2014, 10:18 AM   #6
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All these extra facts certainly support the idea of having these snipers in place. Do they support actually aiming a firearm at these people though? Of course, actual evidence of that aiming is non-existent so far.
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Old April 8, 2014, 10:27 AM   #7
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To be perfectly honest, I really don't see any valid issues in this situation that are fodder for discussion in L&CR, so I'm going to shut it down.

If one of the L&CR mods disagrees, I've no problem with them reopening it.
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