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January 3, 2001, 02:00 AM | #1 |
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Hey all,
Could anyone tell me the company that does the conversion or manufactures the short barreled shotgun known as the "Witness Protection"? It is based on a Remington 870 and the barrel has been cut to about 12" and a pistol grip has been added. I am looking to get a short barreled shotgun and I am interested in that one as well as some others. If anyone knows the answer to my question please post it here so I can get the details. I would also like any other info on these types of weapons that anyone may have. I am open to recommendations as well. Keep in mind that I do not want to pay the $200.00 tax, I want to get a gun that is classified as an AOW and therefore will only cost me a tax charge of $5.00 Thanks for any help that you might give me. Nala |
January 3, 2001, 09:25 AM | #2 |
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Tom Bowers has a listing of Class II and Class 3 dealers who can help you out. Go to http://www.subguns.com and clik on recommended dealers for more information.
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January 3, 2001, 10:26 AM | #3 |
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IIRC, short barreled shotguns by definition have shoulder stocks, while AOW shotguns do not. The latter have the $5 tax. Think about what you actually want a pistol-grip-only shotgun for, and realize that in general it's not particularly useful.
I bought this Mossberg 590 Mariner AOW from C3 dealer Allan Kirchmer: I'm also tempted by the Serbu Super-Shorty: Check your state's laws on such items; subtleties may allow or disalow such arms. Read Bardwell's NFA FAQ. Peruse Tom Bowers' Subguns Board. Read and contribute to the 1934 Group's lawsuit to remove the much-abused CLEO-signoff requirement for Class III transfers. When you're ready to buy, contact the dealer of your choice and just work through the paperwork he gives you. |
January 4, 2001, 05:59 AM | #4 |
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The "Witness Protection" model 870 is offered by Scattergun Technologies, Inc. They used to be a stand alone company, but now I believe they are part of Bill Wilson's outfit. Don't have a url or anything, but a search with that name or Wilson's should yeild something.
I've got a 5 or 6 year old catalog from STI, and the WP looks like a great under-the-coat gun, but it is pricey. If I lived in a Class III state, I'd probably have one, but....
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January 4, 2001, 09:48 AM | #5 |
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The "Witness Protection" is made by Roger Small of Scattergun Technologies Inc. Scattergun Technologies, Inc. 2234 CR 719 • Berryville, AR 72616 1-800-955-4856 • 870-545-3618 FAX 870-545-3310 You can request a catalog via Wilson Combat at [email protected] |
January 29, 2001, 05:23 PM | #6 |
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Wilson WP870
I have an original "Witness Protection 870" which was built by Jim Wilson, Wilson Arms, Brunswick GA. Several years ago, Wilson was in a legal battle with Roger Small over the name. I don't know what the outcome was.
For a shotgun with a brl. less than 18" to be classified as AOW, it must be orginally manufactured in that configuration. This requires the maker to be classified as a manufacturer by the maker of the receiver/shotgun. Even with a $5 stamp, you can not put a stock on an AOW shotgun. Anytime you cut a brl on an existing shotgun, regardless of the configuration (stock/no stock) it is classified as a short-barreled shotgun and ATF hits you up for $200. Also, be aware that Wilson purchased SGT and it is my understanding that Small is no longer involved in the operation. Hope this helps. RLG |
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