Montana Traffic Stop

texagun · July 15, 2010, 06:28 PM

A routine traffic stop in Montana turns ugly. Turn up your computer
volume. Listen for the first "click" as the driver pulls out
and points the gun at the Trooper....a 41 Magnum Revolver. The
"click" is the hammer dropping on an already fired round in the
cylinder. The second round was live. A lucky Trooper indeed!
The suspect was shot in the back while driving away and died on
scene after crashing into a building.

Observe the speed at which the Trooper draws
his weapon and fires. Accurately. Practice makes
perfect.

Click here: Hamilton Police shooting video
http://billingsgazette.com/news/stat...cc4c002e0.html

Young.Gun.612 · July 15, 2010, 07:42 PM

Holy hell!

Retired15T · July 15, 2010, 07:45 PM

Another scum bag off the planet. Great shooting by the officer!

Mr Dish · July 15, 2010, 07:56 PM

I concur with the Officer....Holy Sh>t!

Young.Gun.612 · July 15, 2010, 08:05 PM

Yeah, that was some PHENOMENAL shooting, especially for having had a gun go *click* all up in his grill. I'd have certainly needed a new pair of shorts after that.

Rayndeon · July 15, 2010, 08:05 PM

That was an incredibly close call. Under any other circumstances, he would be dead. Congrats to the officer for reacting quickly after getting over the shock.

hoytinak · July 15, 2010, 08:12 PM

Yeah, you can see it took him a second to realize what just happened but he recovered from it pretty quick and took care of business.

Longdayjake · July 16, 2010, 09:56 AM

See how the adrenaline made it hard for him to talk? I have only had that happen once to me and I can say its quite a feeling.

twobit · July 16, 2010, 10:24 AM

qoute: See how the adrenaline made it hard for him to talk? I have only had that happen once to me and I can say its quite a feeling.
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His voice was extremely controlled considering what just happened to him. Definately a good, well trained officer. It also looks like he also hit the gun with his flashlight, knocking the aim away from his face.

Stiofan · July 16, 2010, 11:07 AM

Hamilton is a small town, I imagine there's only a few city police there, or perhaps the county is contracted. Regardless, job well done.

Coltman 77 · July 16, 2010, 11:34 AM

Wow.

Glad the police officer is still with us, fine shooting on his part.

TeamSinglestack · July 16, 2010, 01:03 PM

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Yeah, you can see it took him a second to realize what just happened but he recovered from it pretty quick and took care of business.

Complacency kills.

There is no such thing as a "routine" stop.

The officer recovered well from his initial hesitation, however, sometimes you won't get a chance to "recover". Hopefully the officer learns from the experience and approaches each encounter with a plan to take defensive action immediately, and without hesitation.

booker_t · July 16, 2010, 01:41 PM

Recently posted and discussed..

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=407778

threegun · July 18, 2010, 03:25 PM

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I'd have certainly needed a new pair of shorts after that.

Me three although the officer was spotted late that evening purchasing a gallon of bleach for stain removal LOL.

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Recently posted and discussed..

Dude you should apply to become a moderator. You chime in alot just to say its been done before or to challenge whether a thread qualified as tactics and training. Please let the trained professionals handle the forum. If you don't like a thread go to another.

Respond to the OP or with something valid to add to the discussion or go away. See now you got me acting like you.

DanThaMan1776 · July 18, 2010, 03:41 PM

This may be a silly question.. but would a kevlar vest stop a 41 magnum round at that range?

retiredcoasty · July 18, 2010, 04:02 PM

Tex, thank you for posting that video! I am certainly glad that the officer reacted quickly and hopefully helped the driver/shooter to reach ambient room temperature!

mete · July 18, 2010, 04:45 PM

Vests come in different levels of effectiveness .So the stopping depends on what bullet in what cartridge against what vest. Remember that vests don't protect you if the bullet hits un protected areas like your head !!

Wildalaska · July 18, 2010, 04:53 PM

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Another scum bag off the planet

:barf:

WildbacktoavoidingT&TagainAlaska TM

Anthrax · July 18, 2010, 05:03 PM

Holy Hell indeed!

EXCELLENT control of nerves by the officer, and what a fine way to react! He's got some great shooting skills! Just look at that stance where he just freezes and dedicates his mind and body to bringing that scumbag down!

+1 for the officer and +1 for Double stack mags! Glad that he wasn't harmed.

JWT · July 18, 2010, 05:35 PM

Unbelievable. Superb reaction by the officer. Very fortunate to have the entire thing recorded so there can't be any doubt as to who was at fault.

booker_t · July 19, 2010, 02:15 PM

Everyone extolling the officer's "brilliant" action.. while I'm happy with the outcome, generally speaking it was a poorly executed stop.

In the other discussion, you'll find some excellent observations by trained LEOs. Two examples:

1) Officer had the flashlight in his gun hand, contrary to most training.

2) Officer approached from the window, not from the B-pillar as is often taught.

WARRIOR I · July 19, 2010, 03:44 PM

Anyone know what the trooper was using ?

threegun · July 19, 2010, 04:24 PM

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Everyone extolling the officer's "brilliant" action.. while I'm happy with the outcome, generally speaking it was a poorly executed stop.

In the other discussion, you'll find some excellent observations by trained LEOs. Two examples:

1) Officer had the flashlight in his gun hand, contrary to most training.

2) Officer approached from the window, not from the B-pillar as is often taught.

The shooting happened after the officer had already approached. That eliminates the deficiencies in his approach from this discussion. The flashlight OTOH should have been in his weak hand however from the video it appears that having it in his strong hand allowed him to deflect the revolver in the opposite direction he planed on moving. It also didn't seem to delay his draw, the reason for keeping the strong hand free.

He won the fight despite the element of surprise. He kept his composure despite taking fire. He should be commended not ridiculed

NRALIFER · July 19, 2010, 04:32 PM

Ditto ThreeGun that was fast reaction and the good guy won

TylerD45ACP · July 19, 2010, 04:34 PM

I cannot imagine what that trooper must have felt when the gun clicked in his face. Sheer panic followed by sheer relief most likley wow. I'm glad the BD was stupid and accidently had a fired case in the live chamber. He got what he deserved it seems as well, the officer started lighting him up. He scored a fatal hit even though he was throwing bullets like candy because of the adrenaline.

July 15, 2010, 06:28 PM	#1
texagun Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2004 Posts: 230	Montana Traffic Stop A routine traffic stop in Montana turns ugly. Turn up your computer volume. Listen for the first "click" as the driver pulls out and points the gun at the Trooper....a 41 Magnum Revolver. The "click" is the hammer dropping on an already fired round in the cylinder. The second round was live. A lucky Trooper indeed! The suspect was shot in the back while driving away and died on scene after crashing into a building. Observe the speed at which the Trooper draws his weapon and fires. Accurately. Practice makes perfect. Click here: Hamilton Police shooting video http://billingsgazette.com/news/stat...cc4c002e0.html

July 15, 2010, 07:45 PM	#3
Retired15T Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 175	Another scum bag off the planet. Great shooting by the officer! __________________ Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out the window. -Unkown "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson

July 15, 2010, 07:56 PM	#4
Mr Dish Senior Member Join Date: December 25, 2009 Location: Shepherd, MI Posts: 128	I concur with the Officer....Holy Sh>t! __________________ Vote Libertarian or QUIT COMPLAINING!

July 16, 2010, 09:56 AM	#8
Longdayjake Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2009 Posts: 619	See how the adrenaline made it hard for him to talk? I have only had that happen once to me and I can say its quite a feeling. __________________ If you need bullets for reloading give my website a look. www.rmrbullets.com

July 16, 2010, 10:24 AM	#9
twobit Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2010 Location: Coyote Creak, SW Texas Posts: 597	qoute: See how the adrenaline made it hard for him to talk? I have only had that happen once to me and I can say its quite a feeling. __________________ His voice was extremely controlled considering what just happened to him. Definately a good, well trained officer. It also looks like he also hit the gun with his flashlight, knocking the aim away from his face. __________________ Twobit, Strive to live up to the opinion that your dog has of you.

July 15, 2010, 07:42 PM	#2
Young.Gun.612 Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 400	Holy hell!

July 15, 2010, 08:05 PM	#5
Young.Gun.612 Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 400	Yeah, that was some PHENOMENAL shooting, especially for having had a gun go click all up in his grill. I'd have certainly needed a new pair of shorts after that.

July 15, 2010, 08:05 PM	#6
Rayndeon Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2008 Posts: 128	That was an incredibly close call. Under any other circumstances, he would be dead. Congrats to the officer for reacting quickly after getting over the shock.

July 15, 2010, 08:12 PM	#7
hoytinak Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 5,721	Yeah, you can see it took him a second to realize what just happened but he recovered from it pretty quick and took care of business.

July 16, 2010, 11:07 AM	#10
Stiofan Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2006 Location: Panhandle, Idaho Posts: 714	Hamilton is a small town, I imagine there's only a few city police there, or perhaps the county is contracted. Regardless, job well done.

July 16, 2010, 11:34 AM	#11
Coltman 77 Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,244	Wow. Glad the police officer is still with us, fine shooting on his part. __________________ "A man can be destroyed but not defeated". Ernest Hemingway Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights -- Join the NRA

July 16, 2010, 01:41 PM	#13
booker_t Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2009 Posts: 797	Recently posted and discussed.. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=407778

July 18, 2010, 03:41 PM	#15
DanThaMan1776 Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 395	This may be a silly question.. but would a kevlar vest stop a 41 magnum round at that range? __________________ Amateurs think equipment, Students think techniques, Experts think tactics.

July 18, 2010, 04:02 PM	#16
retiredcoasty Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2009 Location: Central Massachusetts Posts: 139	Tex, thank you for posting that video! I am certainly glad that the officer reacted quickly and hopefully helped the driver/shooter to reach ambient room temperature!

July 18, 2010, 04:45 PM	#17
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Vests come in different levels of effectiveness .So the stopping depends on what bullet in what cartridge against what vest. Remember that vests don't protect you if the bullet hits un protected areas like your head !!

July 18, 2010, 05:03 PM	#19
Anthrax Member Join Date: July 10, 2010 Location: Lahore, Pakistan. Posts: 68	Holy Hell indeed! EXCELLENT control of nerves by the officer, and what a fine way to react! He's got some great shooting skills! Just look at that stance where he just freezes and dedicates his mind and body to bringing that scumbag down! +1 for the officer and +1 for Double stack mags! Glad that he wasn't harmed. __________________ "If you can't name at least 20 weapons from the WW2, you're not supposed to be a firearms enthusiast."

July 18, 2010, 05:35 PM	#20
JWT Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2007 Location: Southern Arizona Posts: 3,888	Unbelievable. Superb reaction by the officer. Very fortunate to have the entire thing recorded so there can't be any doubt as to who was at fault.

July 19, 2010, 02:15 PM	#21
booker_t Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2009 Posts: 797	Everyone extolling the officer's "brilliant" action.. while I'm happy with the outcome, generally speaking it was a poorly executed stop. In the other discussion, you'll find some excellent observations by trained LEOs. Two examples: 1) Officer had the flashlight in his gun hand, contrary to most training. 2) Officer approached from the window, not from the B-pillar as is often taught. Last edited by booker_t; July 19, 2010 at 02:20 PM.

July 19, 2010, 03:44 PM	#22
WARRIOR I Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2009 Location: SC Posts: 169	Anyone know what the trooper was using ?

July 19, 2010, 04:32 PM	#24
NRALIFER Member Join Date: September 13, 2009 Location: Reynoldsburg, Ohio Posts: 23	Ditto ThreeGun that was fast reaction and the good guy won __________________ NRA (Benefactor), NRA Certified Firearm Instructor, RSO, Ohio Certified Hunter Education Instructor, GOA (Life), Buckeye Firearms Association, US Sportsman's Alliance.

July 19, 2010, 04:34 PM	#25
TylerD45ACP Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2010 Posts: 1,654	I cannot imagine what that trooper must have felt when the gun clicked in his face. Sheer panic followed by sheer relief most likley wow. I'm glad the BD was stupid and accidently had a fired case in the live chamber. He got what he deserved it seems as well, the officer started lighting him up. He scored a fatal hit even though he was throwing bullets like candy because of the adrenaline.