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October 25, 2013, 03:10 PM | #1 |
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Selling firearms to an out of state resident
Not sure if this is in the right place so moderators please move if it is not.
Anyways, I live in Michigan and my mom and dad live in Georgia. My mom has recently gotten interested in getting a handgun and I have one that I want to sell and she wants. Does the handgun need to be shipped from a MI FFL to a GA FFL in order for her to obtain it? I'm curious because they will be up here for Christmas and if she could just take it with her it would save the shipping and transfer costs. Georgia does not have registration of handguns (I know because I used to live there and bought my first pistol there). Also, how would I have the firearm removed from the MI Pistol Registry handled by the Michigan State Police? Thank you for the help and insight. |
October 25, 2013, 03:42 PM | #2 |
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By law a transfer of a handgun has to go through an FFL to another FFL. You just can't give her the gun. It's a pain in the you know what, but that's the way it is.
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October 25, 2013, 03:48 PM | #3 |
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Actually, it DOESN'T have to originate from an FFL except that you have to be careful how you ship as an individual (No USPS) but it does have to go through a Georgia FFL.
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Here's the whole federal law story on interstate transfers of firearms (not including the rules for those with Curio and Relic licenses and the subject of dual residency):
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October 26, 2013, 02:28 PM | #5 |
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Selling firearms to an out of state resident
Thank you for the help everyone. I really don't want to lost my firearms rights.
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October 26, 2013, 09:21 PM | #6 |
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One thing they didn't say is your mom could move in with you, get a MI Driver's license and become a Michigan resident. I'm not sure which would be cheaper, two driver's licenses and moving her official state of residence twice (and possibly the required wait time to make it official and legal) or the FFL fees.
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October 29, 2013, 02:08 AM | #7 |
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I wonder if Mom can act as a shipping agency, transporting your gun to a GA FFL for transfer.
Is there a legal difference between one private shipper (Mom) and UPS? In the end, a transfer is just about who owns a gun, rather than who has possession of it. Not to suggest anything illegal, but is there really anything wrong with leaving your pistol in your mother's safe keeping? I can't think of any law that prevents her from transporting, storing and even using a firearm that you own. (CA, NY or MA registration exceptions, of course.) |
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Start here:http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms-...censed-persons
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You clearly do not understand the law. Where legal issues are concerned you should not be spouting off about things you don't understand. You could get someone into a lot of trouble. Quote:
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Possession means: Transfer is about possession, not ownership. Some definitions of "transfer" (emphasis added):
Let's look at the statutes again:
In 922(a)(3) the statute refers to transporting or receiving a firearm obtained -- words broader than ownership and consistent with possession. In 922(a)(5), the references to "transfer", "sell", "transport" and "deliver" are also consistent with possession and broader than ownership.
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October 29, 2013, 10:40 AM | #10 |
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I've closed this thread. The OP has his answer, and the thread is starting to attract lousy information.
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