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October 6, 2011, 12:16 AM | #26 |
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I'm not sure what the laws are on Oklahoma... but it's NOT legal in Texas to kill a deer with a knife.
of course, I've finished off deer with a knife on the throat. I'm not going to sit there and watch an animal suffer needlesly. There was actually a case of a game warden confiscating a deer that was shot on an army base in texas, because it was "killed" i.e "finished" with a knife. Total BS in my opinion, but you have some of these game wardens with a corncob buried deep, and just look for a reason to jack with people. |
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All states cover "method of take" as well as legal weapons in the hunting regulations. Good reading, BTW.
It would be a lot easier to believe a knife to dispatch a wounded deer than a firearm during bow season, otherwise every Bubba in the state would carry a handgun to "finish off" his deer. And a spotlight, too, because they were looking for him at night, Mr Warden.
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I belonged to a bow hunt only club for a few years and we had a spear (I kid you not) for following deer at night. The logic was, you could not shoot it again w/ your bow after hours, and approaching and doing the deed w/ a knife could get tricky, so you stuck the animal from a slight distance w/ the spear. It got carried a bunch, but I never was with a tracking job on that lease, that didn't find a dead deer already, at the end.
"course Alabama now declares a spear season for deer, so.........I dunno. |
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Spear season does sound exciting. I wonder if that means that Bamaranger's former club won't be able to use the spear to dispatch wounded animals after dark anymore.
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Interesting question.
As stated, it is a state by state thing. Where it would be illegal does illustrate the absurdity of many of our laws and regulations. |
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Some states have specific law addressing dispatching wounded game and some don't seem to address it directly. For example, in North Carolina an archer can use a handgun to dispatch wounded game but it must be a .22 rimfire:
SECTION 1. G.S. 113-291.1 is amended by adding a new subsection to read: "(k) If a hunter kills or wounds a big game animal during the hunting hours authorized by subsection (a) of this section, the hunter may use a portable light source and a single dog on a leash to assist the hunter in retrieving the dead or wounded big game animal, and may dispatch a wounded big game animal using only a .22-caliber rimfire pistol, archery equipment, or a handgun otherwise legal for that hunting season. Pursuit and retrieval under this subsection may occur between the hours of one-half hour after sunset and 11:00 p.m. if necessary, but such pursuit and retrieval may not be accomplished using a motorized vehicle. It doesn't look like a hunter can use a knife in North Carolina to dispatch a big game animal. |
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Also, your states game regulations are difficult, at best to find information in, but I think if you ask an agent he will tell you that it illegal to use a firearm to finish off a deer wounded by an arrow. Quote:
I'll give your pall the benefit of the doubt, and say that he misunderstood the law, and made a mistake not going back after the deer with a legal method.
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With all the confusion Tuesday, I did call the conservation officer's office for the county where I had been and told them my name and that I had used a handgun to put down a deer that had been wounded by an arrow. They said "You're fine. That isn't hunting, it's dispatching a wounded animal." I don't know if that means that it is legal but that CO thought it was ok. If someone had shot an unwounded animal with a firearm during bow season, I suspect the answer would have been different. |
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I wouldn't dispatch any large animal with a knife. My friend found himself in deep doo-doo when he tried this with a mule deer. But...He thought that animal was dead though. When he told us about this I was laughing so hard I couldn't take it anylonger.
He just knocked the deer out with the shot - grazed the head. Then when he sat down by the animal, it awakened Last edited by American Made; October 7, 2011 at 06:03 AM. |
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To add to the confusion, many state and national forests prohibit the carrying of an "cutting instrument". No pocket, skinning knives, camp axes, nothing.
BTW, what is the broadhead on an arrow if not a "cutting instrument". Regs. can be stupid. |
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The COs are often on the side of practicality, and spirit of the law, rather than letter of the law.
I was once privy to a conversation between a person who had hit and grievously wounded a nice buck and the CO on the 24hr number. The guy was calling to get a CO sent out to dispatch the very alive but unable to get up and run animal, this was near midnight. Anyway, the CO made it VERY, ABUNDANTLY clear what he was getting at when he said, "If I had an officer out that way I'd send him to help, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY OFFICERS ANYWHERE NEAR YOU, if I had any officers ANYWHERE NEAR YOU, I'd send them BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY OFFICERS ANYWHERE NEAR YOU... Do you understand what I mean?" It was a very clear wink and nod to do what you have to do, without actually giving permission to do it. Most everyone understands that even laws against such things are there to prevent INTENT not to prevent dispatching of wounded animals and allow them to suffer. Some states, Texas is one, now have specific rules about tracking and killing of legally wounded animals. They all should. |
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