Competition

littlmak · September 10, 2008, 01:53 AM

So, I'm watching a nature show a while back about predators. The narrator stated a bear could smell the blood of a wounded animal and track it down from a mile or more away. I would imagine a wolf or coyote might too. Many times I see footage of these animals challenging each other for the kill. My question is this. Have you ever been surprised or challenged by another preadater while field dressing or hauling your kill back to camp/ car etc?

HOGGHEAD · September 10, 2008, 04:01 AM

I have a friend who lost an elk to a grizzly in Montana once. He said they were not in any hurry to get the elk out, and about two hours later the grizzly claimed the kill. And that was that. It was a cow elk.

I have another friend who lives in Green River, WY. He is an excellent elk hunter. He told me you have about an hour to get an elk quartered and out of there. If you do not get it out then it will be claimed by a bear. Another friend of mine went to WY to hunt with Dave a couple of years ago, and he ran into a grizzly on horseback. He did not have any encounter with the bear, but he admitted that it scared him a bit. Tom.

hogdogs · September 10, 2008, 05:13 AM

Never so much as felt I was being watched... cept junior lickin' his chops when I am butcherin' a small weiner piggy. He loves to pork overdose on them. Grill a 15-20 pounder and he will eat about all of it in one sitting. He will then spend most of the next day sittin' in a different room:barf:

but claims it was worth every second to eat that delectable treat.

Brent

deanadell · September 10, 2008, 09:09 AM

Nope....not while hunting.....fishing is another story. Many times I've had sharks take my catch wawy before I got it in the boat.

camper4lyfe · September 10, 2008, 09:16 AM

My parents just bought 5.5 acres in an area with an increasing black bear population. I'm curious to see how much bear activity is there, and I'm hoping I don't have any issues with my deer.

Scorch · September 10, 2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

and he ran into a grizzly on horseback.

Wow, grizzlies on horses

!

Art Eatman · September 10, 2008, 10:07 AM

I believe it was in The American Hunter that I read that some grizzlies have learned to move toward the sound of a rifle shot, identifying it with food. I can see how this could begin, if a grizzly is downwind of the kill. First the bang, then the smell of blood. After a season or two with several such events, there is an educated bear.

HOGGHEAD · September 10, 2008, 10:12 AM

Scorch you got me on that one. And I do not care what anybody else thinks, that is funny. Tom.

camper4lyfe · September 10, 2008, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Art Eatman

I believe it was in The American Hunter that I read that some grizzlies have learned to move toward the sound of a rifle shot, identifying it with food. I can see how this could begin, if a grizzly is downwind of the kill. First the bang, then the smell of blood. After a season or two with several such events, there is an educated bear.

In the Eastern High Peaks region of the Adirondack State Park, if you camp over night, you're not allowed to hang bear bags. Instead, you're required to carry bear cans because the black bears have actually learned how to cut the rope used to hang the bags due to the high traffic of that area.

Bears are smart, especially given enough time and opportunity to learn.

davlandrum · September 10, 2008, 11:49 AM

Has anyone heard of Black Bears trying to claim a kill?

I know it happens with Grizzly (or Browns, or Kodiaks). I would be very surprised to hear of a Black Bear doing it.

kraigwy · September 10, 2008, 06:35 PM

I think there are more problems with human preditors trying to take someone else's game.

Reminds me of a story of a lady who shot her first cow elk, she runs up all excited to see a guy fooling with her kill, she starts jumping up and down and screaming "THATS MY ELK, THATS MY ELK".

Guy says "take it easy lady, soon as I get my bridle and saddle off it, you can have it."

shortwave · September 11, 2008, 05:01 PM

Thats a good one kraigwy. Don`t know of black bear taking a meat kill but I have heard of a black bear running deer bow hunter out from under an apple tree. Seems as though hunter bated around apple tree with bushel basket of apples in bow season. Bear must`ve been used to feeding on apples when they where recently on trees. Bear let hunter know who the apples belonged to.

Jack O'Conner · September 11, 2008, 05:55 PM

Years ago, my brother and I were field dressing his buck out on the open prairie when a foul tempered badger showed up. He growled a couple times and made himself appear tough. But not tough enough - a .243 bullet sent him to oblivion.

Many times, coyotes hang back just out of rifle range when we're shooting a dog town. They hear the shots and that's their dinner bell.

Jack

September 10, 2008, 01:53 AM	#1
littlmak Senior Member Join Date: December 25, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 308	Competition So, I'm watching a nature show a while back about predators. The narrator stated a bear could smell the blood of a wounded animal and track it down from a mile or more away. I would imagine a wolf or coyote might too. Many times I see footage of these animals challenging each other for the kill. My question is this. Have you ever been surprised or challenged by another preadater while field dressing or hauling your kill back to camp/ car etc? __________________ I'm looking for a gun for a fella that can't shoot. (John Wayne, Eldorado)

September 10, 2008, 04:01 AM	#2
HOGGHEAD Senior Member Join Date: April 2, 2008 Location: Rivesville, WV Posts: 637	Elk I have a friend who lost an elk to a grizzly in Montana once. He said they were not in any hurry to get the elk out, and about two hours later the grizzly claimed the kill. And that was that. It was a cow elk. I have another friend who lives in Green River, WY. He is an excellent elk hunter. He told me you have about an hour to get an elk quartered and out of there. If you do not get it out then it will be claimed by a bear. Another friend of mine went to WY to hunt with Dave a couple of years ago, and he ran into a grizzly on horseback. He did not have any encounter with the bear, but he admitted that it scared him a bit. Tom.

September 10, 2008, 10:12 AM	#8
HOGGHEAD Senior Member Join Date: April 2, 2008 Location: Rivesville, WV Posts: 637	Grizzlies on horses Scorch you got me on that one. And I do not care what anybody else thinks, that is funny. Tom.

September 10, 2008, 11:49 AM	#10
davlandrum Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Lane County Oregon Posts: 2,547	Has anyone heard of Black Bears trying to claim a kill? I know it happens with Grizzly (or Browns, or Kodiaks). I would be very surprised to hear of a Black Bear doing it. __________________ U.S Army, Retired Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. -Potter Stewart

September 10, 2008, 06:35 PM	#11
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	I think there are more problems with human preditors trying to take someone else's game. Reminds me of a story of a lady who shot her first cow elk, she runs up all excited to see a guy fooling with her kill, she starts jumping up and down and screaming "THATS MY ELK, THATS MY ELK". Guy says "take it easy lady, soon as I get my bridle and saddle off it, you can have it." __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

September 10, 2008, 05:13 AM	#3
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Never so much as felt I was being watched... cept junior lickin' his chops when I am butcherin' a small weiner piggy. He loves to pork overdose on them. Grill a 15-20 pounder and he will eat about all of it in one sitting. He will then spend most of the next day sittin' in a different room:barf: but claims it was worth every second to eat that delectable treat. Brent

September 10, 2008, 09:09 AM	#4
deanadell Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2005 Location: Upstate, South Carolina Posts: 639	Nope....not while hunting.....fishing is another story. Many times I've had sharks take my catch wawy before I got it in the boat.

September 10, 2008, 09:16 AM	#5
camper4lyfe Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2008 Location: Fairport, NY Posts: 165	My parents just bought 5.5 acres in an area with an increasing black bear population. I'm curious to see how much bear activity is there, and I'm hoping I don't have any issues with my deer.

September 10, 2008, 10:07 AM	#7
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	I believe it was in The American Hunter that I read that some grizzlies have learned to move toward the sound of a rifle shot, identifying it with food. I can see how this could begin, if a grizzly is downwind of the kill. First the bang, then the smell of blood. After a season or two with several such events, there is an educated bear.

September 11, 2008, 05:01 PM	#12
shortwave Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2007 Location: SOUTHEAST, OHIO Posts: 5,970	Thats a good one kraigwy. Don`t know of black bear taking a meat kill but I have heard of a black bear running deer bow hunter out from under an apple tree. Seems as though hunter bated around apple tree with bushel basket of apples in bow season. Bear must`ve been used to feeding on apples when they where recently on trees. Bear let hunter know who the apples belonged to.

September 11, 2008, 05:55 PM	#13
Jack O'Conner Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2005 Location: Manatee County, Florida Posts: 1,976	Years ago, my brother and I were field dressing his buck out on the open prairie when a foul tempered badger showed up. He growled a couple times and made himself appear tough. But not tough enough - a .243 bullet sent him to oblivion. Many times, coyotes hang back just out of rifle range when we're shooting a dog town. They hear the shots and that's their dinner bell. Jack __________________ Fire up the grill! Deer hunting IS NOT catch and release.