Shootout In MS Gunshop Leaves Two Dead

thallub · January 24, 2016, 04:33 PM

Two more were wounded. There was a dispute over a $25 fee. The owner of the gunshop and his son were killed. Otherwise, not a lot of details.

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He identified the owner and his son as Jason McLemore, 44, and Jacob McLemore, 17, WLOX-TV (http://bit.ly/1Jvbi9I ) reported Sunday.

Michael McCool, 29, allegedly shot both with a 40-caliber pistol, he told the station.

http://news.yahoo.com/sheriff-gun-sh...184127654.html

Mike38 · January 24, 2016, 06:05 PM

Over $25? It's a strange world in which we live.

turkeestalker · January 24, 2016, 06:22 PM

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It's a strange world in which we live.

...and a little scary.

**Aguila Blanca** · January 24, 2016, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by turkeestalker

...and a little scary.

A LITTLE scary?

MurBob · January 24, 2016, 07:37 PM

I think strange and scary are not very good descriptions.

Let me see if I can think of a few words..

Stupid, foolish, unreasonable, shallow, righteous,

Along with a background check, I think they should make people take IQ test to buy firearms.. get a drivers license, procreate, and a few other things.

Think of it.. we'd have a lot fewer guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them, there would be so few vehicles on the road we probably wouldn't even need traffic lights anymore, and welfare would be a thing of the past!

TXAZ · January 24, 2016, 07:42 PM

No gun is worth someone's life. It makes me wonder how something like that escalated.
RIP gentlemen.

lamarw · January 24, 2016, 08:10 PM

It will also be interesting to find out if alcohol could of been a contributor.

Rifleman1952 · January 24, 2016, 09:28 PM

Sadly, we seem to be living in an era when if someone feels insulted or slighted, for any reason, then it's OK to shoot and kill the person or persons who insulted them. If you have extremely thin skin, then you probably shouldn't be carrying a firearm.

**Aguila Blanca** · January 24, 2016, 10:02 PM

We're back to living in the fantasy world of the Louis L'Amour westerns ...

"You insulted mah hoss. I'll see you in the street at high noon."

thallub · January 25, 2016, 09:33 AM

The two families knew each other. Too bad neither side had the good sense to back down.

Idiots with guns and all that.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...tomers-n503601

TimSr · January 25, 2016, 10:01 AM

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Along with a background check, I think they should make people take IQ test to buy firearms.. get a drivers license, procreate, and a few other things.

Those are the types the government generally employs to administer the testing.

**Tom Servo** · January 25, 2016, 01:26 PM

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Idiots with guns and all that.

The problem is, the gun-control crowd absolutely loves idiots with guns. It gives them a source of material with which to mock all of us.

"Here's your good guy with a gun exercising his 2nd Amendment rights," is typical of the rhetoric they're throwing around when stuff like this happens.

Double Naught Spy · January 25, 2016, 02:00 PM

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Sadly, we seem to be living in an era when if someone feels insulted or slighted, for any reason, then it's OK to shoot and kill the person or persons who insulted them.

Heinlein would be proud.

45_auto · January 25, 2016, 02:34 PM

John Wayne (The Shootist) would also be proud:

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"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."

kilimanjaro · January 25, 2016, 02:58 PM

I'm pretty sure Heinlein and Wayne would have paid the $25 fee to the shop owner without resorting to violence.

Double Naught Spy · January 25, 2016, 04:31 PM

Well, we still don't know who fired first or if it was necessary or justified. We just know the McCools were not happy with the deal as it was going down, but they may be the victims here, or maybe not.

Double Naught Spy · February 1, 2019, 09:31 AM

Trial underway...
https://www.picayuneitem.com/2019/01...urder-charges/

**Aguila Blanca** · February 1, 2019, 09:55 AM

Slightly earlier article:
https://www.picayuneitem.com/2019/01...circuit-court/

This one provides some background. It would appear that the McCools were el primo dirtbags who were hell-bent on not paying for parts that had been ordered for their firearm.

jag2 · February 1, 2019, 11:30 AM

I remember when I was a kid in the '50s a man went into 7/11 type store and bought some 22 ammo (they did that back then). He paid for the ammo, calmly took out his gun, loaded it and then robbed the store. I know its not funny but I always chuckle a little when I think about it.

USNRet93 · February 2, 2019, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

The problem is, the gun-control crowd absolutely loves idiots with guns. It gives them a source of material with which to mock all of us.

"Here's your good guy with a gun exercising his 2nd Amendment rights," is typical of the rhetoric they're throwing around when stuff like this happens.

It certainly adds to their argument but I doubt anybody, including the 'anti-gun crowd', loves it when somebody is killed with a gun. BUT, 'idiots with guns' is a problem, yes? No solutions from me, can't legislate away stupidity...But these days, many, many arguments go from pushing and shoving to gun fight...

Thomas Clarke · February 2, 2019, 11:37 AM

Both sides were armed and discharged handguns and the younger deceased used his machete first. Given the narrative this looks like poor customer service by the LGS and an aggressive response by the patrons. A tragedy for all. Perhaps this is the cost of doing business in Mississippi?

**Aguila Blanca** · February 2, 2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Clarke

Both sides were armed and discharged handguns and the younger deceased used his machete first.

I haven't seen that in any reports. Source?

Targa · February 2, 2019, 05:18 PM

People can be stupid, disgusting, evil and just flat out worthless. It has been like this since the beginning, the biggest difference now is that the coverage of this negative crap is 24/7.

**JohnKSa** · February 2, 2019, 05:38 PM

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Both sides were armed and discharged handguns and the younger deceased used his machete first.

He may have brandished it or tried to cut/stab with it, but tests showed only his own DNA was found on the "curved knife" he had.

From the 31 January Picayune article.

"...DNA testing showed Jacob’s was the only DNA found on the part of the knife tested, and that there was no mixture of DNA from other individuals on the sample taken from the knife..."

Samples were taken from both the handle and the blade.

M88 · February 2, 2019, 06:06 PM

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If you have extremely thin skin, then you probably shouldn't be carrying a firearm.

I agree there are people that should not be carrying a gun. Having that determined by whether you have "thin skin" however, is a VERY slippery slope. Exactly who determines if I have a "thin skin", whatever that legally means if anything. My local sheriff I may have had a legitimate run-in with over God knows what, and he simply doesn't like me? An ex-girlfriend that would say anything to anybody if it would put me in hot water? Slippery slope... we don't want to go there.

January 24, 2016, 07:42 PM	#6
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	No gun is worth someone's life. It makes me wonder how something like that escalated. RIP gentlemen. __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

January 25, 2016, 04:31 PM	#16
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Well, we still don't know who fired first or if it was necessary or justified. We just know the McCools were not happy with the deal as it was going down, but they may be the victims here, or maybe not. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

February 1, 2019, 09:31 AM	#17
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Trial underway... https://www.picayuneitem.com/2019/01...urder-charges/ __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

January 24, 2016, 06:05 PM	#2
Mike38 Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2009 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 2,710	Over $25? It's a strange world in which we live.

January 24, 2016, 07:37 PM	#5
MurBob Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2016 Posts: 167	I think strange and scary are not very good descriptions. Let me see if I can think of a few words.. Stupid, foolish, unreasonable, shallow, righteous, Along with a background check, I think they should make people take IQ test to buy firearms.. get a drivers license, procreate, and a few other things. Think of it.. we'd have a lot fewer guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them, there would be so few vehicles on the road we probably wouldn't even need traffic lights anymore, and welfare would be a thing of the past!

January 24, 2016, 08:10 PM	#7
lamarw Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2010 Location: Lake Martin, AL Posts: 3,311	It will also be interesting to find out if alcohol could of been a contributor.

January 24, 2016, 09:28 PM	#8
Rifleman1952 Senior Member Join Date: September 1, 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 284	Sadly, we seem to be living in an era when if someone feels insulted or slighted, for any reason, then it's OK to shoot and kill the person or persons who insulted them. If you have extremely thin skin, then you probably shouldn't be carrying a firearm.

January 24, 2016, 10:02 PM	#9
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,466	We're back to living in the fantasy world of the Louis L'Amour westerns ... "You insulted mah hoss. I'll see you in the street at high noon."

January 25, 2016, 09:33 AM	#10
thallub Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2007 Location: South Western OK Posts: 3,112	The two families knew each other. Too bad neither side had the good sense to back down. Idiots with guns and all that. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...tomers-n503601

January 25, 2016, 02:58 PM	#15
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	I'm pretty sure Heinlein and Wayne would have paid the $25 fee to the shop owner without resorting to violence.

February 1, 2019, 09:55 AM	#18
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,466	Slightly earlier article: https://www.picayuneitem.com/2019/01...circuit-court/ This one provides some background. It would appear that the McCools were el primo dirtbags who were hell-bent on not paying for parts that had been ordered for their firearm.

February 1, 2019, 11:30 AM	#19
jag2 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2009 Location: dallas Posts: 773	I remember when I was a kid in the '50s a man went into 7/11 type store and bought some 22 ammo (they did that back then). He paid for the ammo, calmly took out his gun, loaded it and then robbed the store. I know its not funny but I always chuckle a little when I think about it.

February 2, 2019, 11:37 AM	#21
Thomas Clarke Member Join Date: March 11, 2012 Posts: 43	Both sides were armed and discharged handguns and the younger deceased used his machete first. Given the narrative this looks like poor customer service by the LGS and an aggressive response by the patrons. A tragedy for all. Perhaps this is the cost of doing business in Mississippi?

February 2, 2019, 05:18 PM	#23
Targa Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2014 Posts: 2,084	People can be stupid, disgusting, evil and just flat out worthless. It has been like this since the beginning, the biggest difference now is that the coverage of this negative crap is 24/7.