st louis hawken

coltbp44 · January 16, 2011, 05:24 PM

I was looking for a hawken to add to my collection and found a pretty good deal on one. After reading some on the web a few people are saying they will blow up. Cva web site really talks more about the in-line guns, is this cva hawken safe to shoot or not. What is the best bang for your buck when looking for a percussion hawken rifle? The rifle im looking at is a cva 463 hawken.

kwhi43 · January 16, 2011, 05:31 PM

Hold on, I am going to have a Traditions St. Louis Hawken for sale next
Monday. You might want it. Price is going to be from 125-175. Will keep
you informed.

mykeal · January 16, 2011, 06:00 PM

The CVA Hawken is safe to shoot.

Rifleman1776 · January 16, 2011, 06:12 PM

CVA is a good rifle. Weren't the 'hawken' styles called Mountain Rifle and not 'Hawken'? I'm getting forgetful in my old age.
The TC 'Hawkens' aren't bad either.
The Lyman Great Plains Rifle has a lot of current popularity but I have no hands on experience with them.

Hawg · January 16, 2011, 06:23 PM

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CVA is a good rifle. Weren't the 'hawken' styles called Mountain Rifle and not 'Hawken'?

They were called St. louis Hawken's. CVA did make a mountain rifle that was closer to a real Hawken but they command a premium now.

FrontierGander · January 16, 2011, 06:37 PM

CVA Hawken is an awesome rifle. And very affordable still.

The CVA Mountain Rifle however has been selling for $300+ depending on caliber. I had a 54 and 58 big bore mtn rifle a couple years ago and regret selling that set up.

arcticap · January 16, 2011, 08:12 PM

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is this cva hawken safe to shoot or not. What is the best bang for your buck when looking for a percussion hawken rifle?

The CVA sidelocks are good, strong Spanish made guns and each was proof tested and then proof marked.
They're able to take a lot of abuse and such used guns are rarely ever unsafe.
Once in a while someone may short start a load which can ring the barrel or create a bulge in it. One way to tell is to run a tight patch up & down the bore and feel for a loose or uneven spot.
One of the best Hawken deals for the buck right now is the Traditions Hawken Woodsman that has a nickeled barrel and a laminated stock for $284 on sale directly from Traditions. And Traditions muzzle loaders have a limited lifetime
mechanical warranty.

Look ----> http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/pr...c50ca2cfc5582f

Wyosmith · January 16, 2011, 08:39 PM

Are you talking about an authentic copy of an actual J&S Hawken or an TC or CVA?

True Hawkens look a bit different then the ones that are just called Hawkens.

Wyosmith · January 16, 2011, 08:42 PM

Hawg · January 16, 2011, 09:15 PM

Very nice guns Wyosmith. The first one is a lil ornate and the Gemmer sights don't go on a J&S. Just sayin. I only have the one and it's not as nice but was blueprinted from an original.

arcticap · January 16, 2011, 10:55 PM

Here's some photos of a CVA .50 Hawken that appeared to be in "new & unfired" condition. The serial number indicated that it was made in 1991.

Wyosmith · January 17, 2011, 10:11 AM

You are correct Hawg. Gimmer sights would only go on a late S Hawken, but go back and look. The rifle they are on is a copy of an "S." Not a "J.&S."
So the sight is ok on that rifle.

sewerman · January 17, 2011, 04:30 PM

check out track of the wolf for custom made rifles new & used, factory
kits & custom kits offered from TOTW.

there usually is something there for everybody

S.M.

January 16, 2011, 05:24 PM	#1
coltbp44 Junior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Posts: 4	st louis hawken I was looking for a hawken to add to my collection and found a pretty good deal on one. After reading some on the web a few people are saying they will blow up. Cva web site really talks more about the in-line guns, is this cva hawken safe to shoot or not. What is the best bang for your buck when looking for a percussion hawken rifle? The rifle im looking at is a cva 463 hawken.

January 16, 2011, 06:37 PM	#6
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	CVA Hawken is an awesome rifle. And very affordable still. The CVA Mountain Rifle however has been selling for $300+ depending on caliber. I had a 54 and 58 big bore mtn rifle a couple years ago and regret selling that set up. __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

January 17, 2011, 04:30 PM	#13
sewerman Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: hurricane alley, florida Posts: 304	check out track of the wolf for custom made rifles new & used, factory kits & custom kits offered from TOTW. there usually is something there for everybody S.M. __________________ "When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny!" Thomas Jefferson "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety!" Benjamin franklin The Armed Citizen PREVENTS tyranny!

January 16, 2011, 05:31 PM	#2
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	Hold on, I am going to have a Traditions St. Louis Hawken for sale next Monday. You might want it. Price is going to be from 125-175. Will keep you informed.

January 16, 2011, 06:00 PM	#3
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	The CVA Hawken is safe to shoot.

January 16, 2011, 06:12 PM	#4
Rifleman1776 Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,309	CVA is a good rifle. Weren't the 'hawken' styles called Mountain Rifle and not 'Hawken'? I'm getting forgetful in my old age. The TC 'Hawkens' aren't bad either. The Lyman Great Plains Rifle has a lot of current popularity but I have no hands on experience with them.

January 16, 2011, 08:39 PM	#8
Wyosmith Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2010 Location: Shoshoni Wyoming Posts: 2,713	Are you talking about an authentic copy of an actual J&S Hawken or an TC or CVA? True Hawkens look a bit different then the ones that are just called Hawkens.

January 16, 2011, 08:42 PM	#9
Wyosmith Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2010 Location: Shoshoni Wyoming Posts: 2,713

January 16, 2011, 09:15 PM	#10
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Very nice guns Wyosmith. The first one is a lil ornate and the Gemmer sights don't go on a J&S. Just sayin. I only have the one and it's not as nice but was blueprinted from an original.

January 17, 2011, 10:11 AM	#12
Wyosmith Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2010 Location: Shoshoni Wyoming Posts: 2,713	You are correct Hawg. Gimmer sights would only go on a late S Hawken, but go back and look. The rifle they are on is a copy of an "S." Not a "J.&S." So the sight is ok on that rifle.