LBT and H-110?

matt.45 · December 7, 2002, 05:58 PM

Hi there, I just picked up some.430 320gr. WLNGC from Cast performance, the load notes inside call for 19 grains of W-296. I was wondering if anyone has used H-110 with these bullets, and if so what was the min. charge. I thought it might be safe to start at 19 grains of H-110 but it is better to be safe.

Then gun is a Super Blackhawk if that matter.

Ben Shepherd · December 7, 2002, 06:10 PM

I would start at 18, and work up in a couple steps. But in all reality, you should be fine.

If you don't have a chrono, get one. You'll wonder how you ever reloaded without one.

Redneck2 · December 8, 2002, 07:35 AM

make sure you use Mag primers

zanthope · December 8, 2002, 09:10 AM

I have read on this board that H110 and 296 are one and the same powder, manufactured by Olin, and packaged under these two different names.

WESHOOT2 · December 8, 2002, 07:01 PM

When comparing my batches of W296 and H110 (in 44 and 45 LC) I get significant differences, so I ditto the 'start at 18.0g and work up' advice.
And mag primers.

ps can't tell you where I stopped hahahahahahahahahaha ha KABOOM!

Steve Smith · December 9, 2002, 10:04 AM

Same here. Often the 296 performs more consistently than the 110, but "each gun is a law unto its own" and so is powder. Try the Mag primers also, and see if there is a significant differnece in velocity (drop charge first)

cheygriz · December 9, 2002, 05:03 PM

Zanthope,

I too. have heard that H-110 is 296. Perhaps. but perhaps Olin sells the lots that are not consisent with previous lots to Hodgdon.

Still, even with 296, I like to re-work up my loads when going to powder with a different lot number.

That's also why I like to buy powder in minimums of 25-30 pounds of the same lot number.

Frohickey · December 9, 2002, 05:22 PM

I second the thought of starting at 18 grains and working up.
I've also heard that H110 and W296 are one and the same, but load books do not treat them the same.
Starting 5% under, which at 19grains is 18grains is a safe thing to do.

Large magnum primers, use one lot of brass, and start from a clean gun.
Usual round of suspects to check for overpressure... flattened primers, hard extraction, etc.

matt.45 · December 10, 2002, 03:46 PM

Thank you for the input guys, I went to the mall so I picked up some 296. I started at 18 and worked to 20 .5 gr at a time. No signs of overpressure from any of the loads.

That heavy bullet adds a whole new level of recoil to the .44 Mag.Turned out to be very accurate. I think I might have to try this load out deer hunting this season.

December 7, 2002, 05:58 PM	#1
matt.45 Member Join Date: February 9, 2001 Posts: 17	LBT and H-110? Hi there, I just picked up some.430 320gr. WLNGC from Cast performance, the load notes inside call for 19 grains of W-296. I was wondering if anyone has used H-110 with these bullets, and if so what was the min. charge. I thought it might be safe to start at 19 grains of H-110 but it is better to be safe. Then gun is a Super Blackhawk if that matter.

December 7, 2002, 06:10 PM	#2
Ben Shepherd Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: Utah Posts: 1,462	I would start at 18, and work up in a couple steps. But in all reality, you should be fine. If you don't have a chrono, get one. You'll wonder how you ever reloaded without one. __________________ From my cold dead hands......... NRA certified rifle, pistol and shotgun instructor. Hunter education instructor

December 8, 2002, 07:35 AM	#3
Redneck2 Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2000 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 519	Perhaps you already know make sure you use Mag primers

December 8, 2002, 09:10 AM	#4
zanthope Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 258	I have read on this board that H110 and 296 are one and the same powder, manufactured by Olin, and packaged under these two different names. __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then it gets worse.

December 8, 2002, 07:01 PM	#5
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	IMNSLE When comparing my batches of W296 and H110 (in 44 and 45 LC) I get significant differences, so I ditto the 'start at 18.0g and work up' advice. And mag primers. ps can't tell you where I stopped hahahahahahahahahaha ha KABOOM! __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

December 9, 2002, 10:04 AM	#6
Steve Smith Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 1999 Posts: 4,131	Same here. Often the 296 performs more consistently than the 110, but "each gun is a law unto its own" and so is powder. Try the Mag primers also, and see if there is a significant differnece in velocity (drop charge first) __________________ Favor the X. Steve Smith NRA Life Member

December 9, 2002, 05:03 PM	#7
cheygriz Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2002 Location: high up in the rockies Posts: 2,289	Zanthope, I too. have heard that H-110 is 296. Perhaps. but perhaps Olin sells the lots that are not consisent with previous lots to Hodgdon. Still, even with 296, I like to re-work up my loads when going to powder with a different lot number. That's also why I like to buy powder in minimums of 25-30 pounds of the same lot number. __________________ If you think a mighty military force is expensive, wait 'til you see what a weak one costs.

December 9, 2002, 05:22 PM	#8
Frohickey Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2002 Location: People's Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 579	I second the thought of starting at 18 grains and working up. I've also heard that H110 and W296 are one and the same, but load books do not treat them the same. Starting 5% under, which at 19grains is 18grains is a safe thing to do. Large magnum primers, use one lot of brass, and start from a clean gun. Usual round of suspects to check for overpressure... flattened primers, hard extraction, etc. __________________ Frohickey -- TFL Alumni SigSauer, if you are listening, MAKE A DOUBLE-STACK 10mm PISTOL!

December 10, 2002, 03:46 PM	#9
matt.45 Member Join Date: February 9, 2001 Posts: 17	Thank you for the input guys, I went to the mall so I picked up some 296. I started at 18 and worked to 20 .5 gr at a time. No signs of overpressure from any of the loads. That heavy bullet adds a whole new level of recoil to the .44 Mag.Turned out to be very accurate. I think I might have to try this load out deer hunting this season.