I need a 40 S&W load...help

[FullCry]

I got a Lee auto index turret press with the auto powder dispenser. I also have five lbs. of WSF and WST but Lee's chart doesn't list this powder and I can't figure out how to convert my powders to work with this system and I might get hurt if I try. So, I have a lb. of Herco and Lee list it in the table. Does anyone have a 40 S&W load using Herco powder and a 165 grain jhp bullet plus the same but with a 180 grain jhp bullet? Better yet does anyone have the figures to use WSF or WST in this powder measure? That would be great but either one would help me a lot. Thanks for any replies....FullCry

[Don P]

My Lyman 3rd edition reloading book has the following for
180 grain JHP
WSF starting grain-5.0, velocity-853fps, C.U.P.-17,700 / max load grains-6.2 velocity-993fps, C.U.P.-23,400.
There is nothing for your powder choices in the 165 grain bullet. Have you tried the Hodgon web site for loading data? The web site is much more comprehensive than the books with regards to info
here is some info from a web site,
http://stevespages.com/400p_2_165.html
here is the home page of his site check it out. He put alot of effort into it,
http://stevespages.com/page8.htm

Table #4 will get yoy to his reloading data and for the 40S&W use the size of .400 for the info you need.
All his data is listed by bullet size in measurements as I posted for the 40S&W

[jepp2]

Loads from the Hodgdon website for Winchester powders:

135 GR. NOS JHP Winchester AutoComp .400" 1.125" 8.0 1236 26,600 PSI 8.8 1342 32,700 PSI
135 GR. NOS JHP Winchester WSF .400" 1.125" 7.1 1166 26,000 PSI 7.8 1273 32,200 PSI
135 GR. NOS JHP Winchester 231 .400" 1.125" 6.3 1152 29,900 PSI 7.0 1244 33,100 PSI
135 GR. NOS JHP Winchester WST .400" 1.125" 5.5 1089 27,900 PSI 5.9 1143 31,200 PSI
155 GR. HDY XTP Winchester AutoComp .400" 1.125" 7.0 1109 25,800 PSI 7.8 1223 33,800 PSI
155 GR. HDY XTP Winchester WSF .400" 1.125" 6.2 1070 26,100 PSI 6.8 1159 32,500 PSI
155 GR. HDY XTP Winchester 231 .400" 1.125" 5.0 937 22,900 PSI 6.0 1103 33,000 PSI
155 GR. HDY XTP Winchester WST .400" 1.125" 4.6 957 25,400 PSI 5.3 1039 32,500 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Winchester AutoComp .400" 1.125" 6.5 1037 25,600 PSI 7.1 1124 31,500 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Winchester WSF .400" 1.125" 6.3 1055 28,100 PSI 6.7 1115 32,700 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Winchester 231 .400" 1.125" 4.8 946 28,100 PSI 5.3 1001 32,500 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Winchester WST .400" 1.125" 4.5 916 26,400 PSI 5.1 995 33,300 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Winchester AutoComp .400" 1.125" 5.8 975 27,700 PSI 6.3 1053 33,200 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Winchester WSF .400" 1.125" 5.4 946 28,000 PSI 5.8 1013 32,900 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Winchester 231 .400" 1.125" 4.1 797 23,800 PSI 5.0 947 32,900 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Winchester WST .400" 1.125" 3.9 830 28,300 PSI 4.3 888 32,400 PSI
200 GR. HDY XTP Winchester AutoComp .400" 1.125" 4.8 838 27,900 SI 5.2 894 32,100 PSI
200 GR. HDY XTP Winchester WSF .400" 1.125" 4.4 786 27,300 PSI 4.8 867 33,100 PSI
200 GR. HDY XTP Winchester 231 .400" 1.125" 3.9 737 25,900 PSI 4.7 857 33,400 PSI

[FullCry]

I have all of those loads because I go to that site also. My problem is the way Lee made this powder dispenser. They have a table with common powders and charges--which I thought WSF and WST would be. You have to know the grains of powder and multiply it by a number they list above the grains---can't remember the name of the value for my instructions are in my shop---to get cc's, then you use this plastic disc in the powder dispenser and the number on it corresponds with the cc's that you figured. My problem is they don't list my powder so I can figure up the cc's on it. I'ts crazy....a bunch of shhh. I do have some Herco which they list so if no one understands this or knows the values I need or knows how to help me figure this out then Herco it is or one shell at a time. Thanks Y'all, FullCry

[bedlamite]

Don't rely on calculating charge weight based on density. Get a scale, throw a charge, change the disk up or down as needed.

[jepp2]

The attached .pdf Burn Rate file lists cc/gr.

If I understand the Lee dippers use correctly - not sure I do, can't you take your desired load, do the math, and select the proper dipper for whatever powder it is you want to use?

[Doby45]

Don't rely on calculating charge weight based on density. Get a scale, throw a charge, change the disk up or down as needed.

Better advice could not possibly be given.