bp in 7.62x39?

troy_mclure · March 1, 2009, 12:30 PM

ive been perusing the internet on shooting forums lately, and i saw something that caught my eye.
a guy was talking about how he loaded a batch of 7.63x39 with black powder and fired a bunch of mags(number was not stated) with no jamming.

the thread was closed due to flamage of the guy for misusing an AK.

but would this be possible? i know that bp is corrosive, and leaves huge deposits. but its an AK, it will eat any thing right?

**Unclenick** · March 1, 2009, 12:43 PM

More importantly, the acidic sulfur radicals in the moisture absorbent black powder residue will eat anything. Figure your gas system will be weakened and/or rot out if you don't get every trace of that fouling out with soap and boiling water. I can't imagine it's worth the trouble and expense to find that out the hard way.

totalloser · March 1, 2009, 03:21 PM

I agree that it's probably a bad idea, but think it's a shame the thread was closed. Knowledge is rarely a hindrance. Black powder does have one unique attribute; It can be made at home.

troy_mclure · March 1, 2009, 03:48 PM

i think that was the reason the guy did it as a way to keep shooting if powder is unavailable.

45Marlin carbine · March 1, 2009, 05:37 PM

he has been reading 'The Guns of Dixie'.
don't do it. you'll have enuff trouble loading the X39 w/modern powders.

1goodshot · March 1, 2009, 08:24 PM

If my life depended on it and I had no other choice I might try something like that but it sounds like a really bad idea to me.

Sevens · March 1, 2009, 10:23 PM

Do you suppose the guy was using a black powder substitute and thus was not opening up himself to all those associated problems, and merely handicapping himself with very low power for the same amount of money spent, all in the name of making more smoke and simply trying to do something different?

Or does Pyrodex and the like all leave the corrosive, acidic crap behind, too?

Can you tell I'm not a BP guy?!

March 1, 2009, 12:30 PM	#1
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	bp in 7.62x39? ive been perusing the internet on shooting forums lately, and i saw something that caught my eye. a guy was talking about how he loaded a batch of 7.63x39 with black powder and fired a bunch of mags(number was not stated) with no jamming. the thread was closed due to flamage of the guy for misusing an AK. but would this be possible? i know that bp is corrosive, and leaves huge deposits. but its an AK, it will eat any thing right? __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

March 1, 2009, 12:43 PM	#2
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,057	More importantly, the acidic sulfur radicals in the moisture absorbent black powder residue will eat anything. Figure your gas system will be weakened and/or rot out if you don't get every trace of that fouling out with soap and boiling water. I can't imagine it's worth the trouble and expense to find that out the hard way. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

March 1, 2009, 03:21 PM	#3
totalloser Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2007 Location: Fort Bragg, CA Posts: 679	I agree that it's probably a bad idea, but think it's a shame the thread was closed. Knowledge is rarely a hindrance. Black powder does have one unique attribute; It can be made at home. __________________ You only truly believe in freedom if you believe in the freedom of those you disagree.

March 1, 2009, 03:48 PM	#4
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	i think that was the reason the guy did it as a way to keep shooting if powder is unavailable. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

March 1, 2009, 10:23 PM	#7
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,755	Do you suppose the guy was using a black powder substitute and thus was not opening up himself to all those associated problems, and merely handicapping himself with very low power for the same amount of money spent, all in the name of making more smoke and simply trying to do something different? Or does Pyrodex and the like all leave the corrosive, acidic crap behind, too? Can you tell I'm not a BP guy?! __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

March 1, 2009, 05:37 PM	#5
45Marlin carbine Junior member Join Date: January 26, 2007 Location: South-Western North Carolina Posts: 1,124	he has been reading 'The Guns of Dixie'. don't do it. you'll have enuff trouble loading the X39 w/modern powders.

March 1, 2009, 08:24 PM	#6
1goodshot Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: chandler,az Posts: 929	If my life depended on it and I had no other choice I might try something like that but it sounds like a really bad idea to me.

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