Shipping Ammunition

308Gunner · July 16, 2011, 12:02 AM

Anyone have experience with shipping ammunition? And what the best way to go about it might be? I live in NY, and nosed around a bit on Google, and it seems like UPS Ground is the way to go. Just wouldn't mind feedback/suggestions, and if there's any major laws to be mindful of.

Doyle · July 16, 2011, 07:59 AM

UPS ground is pretty much the only way to ship small quantities. By law, it has to go ground (which pretty much eliminates FedEx as they use a lot of air cargo to ship even their slow stuff). And USPS is also prohibited from taking any flamable or explosive cargo. When you get up to larger (as in pallet sized) loads, you can get truck freight shipment.

oneounceload · July 16, 2011, 08:30 AM

The package needs the ORM-D label on it

308Gunner · July 16, 2011, 10:16 AM

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UPS ground is pretty much the only way to ship small quantities

Figured UPS was going to have to be the way to go. Is there a haz-mat charge with ammunition? I tried looking on UPS' site and they didn't have any information relating directly to ammunition.

oneounceload · July 16, 2011, 11:26 AM

no hazmat fee applicable

308Gunner · July 16, 2011, 03:03 PM

Excellent, thanks for the info guys

cjwils · July 17, 2011, 05:27 PM

Can someone tell me about shipping very old ammo loaded with blackpowder? Is that classed as an explosive, and do different shipping rules apply? I have some very old .32 rimfire ammo made in the 1800's that I am thinking about selling online, if feasible.

Stuohn · July 17, 2011, 07:58 PM

The last time I shipped ammo was @ the middle of 2009 so unless anything has changed.

I packed it in a box. Wrote the information on the box (return address, address, etc.) and applied a ORM-D that I printed and held it in place with shipping tape. Drove it down to the closest "UPS Customer Center" location (I think this is the only place that will ship ammo). Walked in used the computer station to put in all the info and weigh it. Printed out the label applied it to the box. I then just handed the box to the guy at the counter. That was it.

On a side note: The guy did ask me if it was ammo and when I answered yes he asked "will it go off if dropped".

EOD Guy · July 18, 2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Doyle

UPS ground is pretty much the only way to ship small quantities. By law, it has to go ground.

Not true. Small arms ammunition can be shipped air cargo, but it is a LOT more expensive that shipping by ground transport. When shipped by air, it is classed as Division 1.4S explosive material with all the associated hazmat charges, packing, labeling, marking and certification requirements for explosive shipments. Packages up to 25 kg can be shipped on a passenger aircraft and up to 100 kg on a cargo aircraft.

Doyle · July 18, 2011, 12:13 PM

EOD Guy, I stand corrected. You are correct. I just can't imagine anyone being that desparate to go through all the trouble (possible exception for someone living out in the middle of Alaska).

FrankenMauser · July 18, 2011, 02:44 PM

UPS ORM-D requirements and procedures changed last year. Call UPS for the current methods.

oneounceload · July 20, 2011, 07:40 AM

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Can someone tell me about shipping very old ammo loaded with blackpowder? Is that classed as an explosive,

BP IS an explosive, whereas smokeless propellant is a flammable solid, so yes different rules apply.

July 16, 2011, 12:02 AM	#1
308Gunner Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2008 Location: NY Posts: 199	Shipping Ammunition Anyone have experience with shipping ammunition? And what the best way to go about it might be? I live in NY, and nosed around a bit on Google, and it seems like UPS Ground is the way to go. Just wouldn't mind feedback/suggestions, and if there's any major laws to be mindful of. __________________ ‘‘To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.’’ — George Mason

July 16, 2011, 03:03 PM	#6
308Gunner Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2008 Location: NY Posts: 199	Excellent, thanks for the info guys __________________ ‘‘To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.’’ — George Mason

July 17, 2011, 07:58 PM	#8
Stuohn Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2009 Location: Back Home in Baytown, TX Posts: 139	The last time I shipped ammo was @ the middle of 2009 so unless anything has changed. I packed it in a box. Wrote the information on the box (return address, address, etc.) and applied a ORM-D that I printed and held it in place with shipping tape. Drove it down to the closest "UPS Customer Center" location (I think this is the only place that will ship ammo). Walked in used the computer station to put in all the info and weigh it. Printed out the label applied it to the box. I then just handed the box to the guy at the counter. That was it. On a side note: The guy did ask me if it was ammo and when I answered yes he asked "will it go off if dropped". __________________ "Be the change you want to see in the world"

July 18, 2011, 02:44 PM	#11
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,423	UPS ORM-D requirements and procedures changed last year. Call UPS for the current methods. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

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July 16, 2011, 07:59 AM	#2
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	UPS ground is pretty much the only way to ship small quantities. By law, it has to go ground (which pretty much eliminates FedEx as they use a lot of air cargo to ship even their slow stuff). And USPS is also prohibited from taking any flamable or explosive cargo. When you get up to larger (as in pallet sized) loads, you can get truck freight shipment.

July 16, 2011, 08:30 AM	#3
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	The package needs the ORM-D label on it

July 16, 2011, 11:26 AM	#5
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	no hazmat fee applicable

July 17, 2011, 05:27 PM	#7
cjwils Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2010 Location: Washington state Posts: 401	Can someone tell me about shipping very old ammo loaded with blackpowder? Is that classed as an explosive, and do different shipping rules apply? I have some very old .32 rimfire ammo made in the 1800's that I am thinking about selling online, if feasible.

July 18, 2011, 12:13 PM	#10
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	EOD Guy, I stand corrected. You are correct. I just can't imagine anyone being that desparate to go through all the trouble (possible exception for someone living out in the middle of Alaska).