March 1, 2013, 01:19 PM | #1 |
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Ruger Hawkeye CRF or not?
I came across a couple threads on another site with folk talking about how the Ruger 77's are at best CRF only some of the time. I found this disheartening as I was planning on buying a Ruger and primarily because of what I thought was a CRF action. Can anyone shed some light on this issue? Does it actually work as a CRF or is it a 98 style push feed that sometimes happens to do a controlled round feed?
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March 1, 2013, 05:12 PM | #2 |
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http://www.ruger.com/products/m77Haw...d/features.htm
NON-ROTATING, MAUSER-TYPE CONTROLLED ROUND FEED EXTRACTOR is the most positive case extraction system ever invented, and features a fixed blade-type ejector that positively ejects the empty cases as the bolt is moved fully rearward.
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The original 77's made from 1968-1991 had a claw extractor, but button ejector and the cartridge rim was not grasped by the extractor until it was in the chamber. Those were not true CRF.
The very 1st few months of the MK-II's had the true CRF ejector, but the extractor still did not grab the rim until after the round was chambed. This was corrected within a few months. It is possible to see a very few Mk-II's that are not true CRF, but all other MK-II and Hawkeye's made since 1991 are true CRF. The confusion is that at times Ruger, as well as almost all modern CRF rifles do not always have the extractor grab the rim while it is still in the magazine. At times the cartridge jumps up out of the magazine and there is a very slight delay before the extractor grabs the rim. This happens just as often with any CRF rifle except some of the WW-2 era military rifles. This does not exclude the design from being called CRF. |
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jmr40...good explanation...
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March 2, 2013, 01:05 AM | #5 |
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JMR thanks for the explanation. So is that something you could see even on say a Winchester Model 70?
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Nowadays, Model 70s are made by FN and as far as I know, they all have the claw extractor. I'm also told that they are very fine rifles. |
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