Sources for material needed

BoogieMan · January 21, 2013, 10:53 AM

I am new to this and because of s&h I have sourced powder local. Other than that I was able to find 200 primers. im loading 9mm to start. I have lead bullets on order from Midatlantic but I am having trouble finding loads using lead bullets with power pitol or hp-38. The alliant page doesnt offer any lead bullet data for power pistol.
-Small pistol primers?
-Jacketed & lead bullets?
-Everything else?

**Unclenick** · January 21, 2013, 11:15 AM

Without knowing what bullet shape or weight you ordered, nobody can address the charge question. Hodgdon's load data includes HP-38 data for a 115 grain lead round nose (LRN) and for a 125 grain lead conical nose (LCN) bullet. Alliant only has 9 mm data for Speer Gold Dot bullets, but knock those loads down 10% for same-weight lead, and you are likely to do OK. You can then work up slowly, watching for pressure signs.

As to supplies, there is a shortage currently because the threat of new gun laws has produced panic buying and it coincides with the military and government agencies making stockpile orders for ammunition. Lots of competition. The supply lines are supposed to start catching up some items next month.

BoogieMan · January 21, 2013, 11:21 AM

Sorry for the missed infor.
125gr round nose lead- http://store.midatlanticbullets.com/...e-1-1-1-5.aspx

factoryrat · January 21, 2013, 11:27 AM

I don't know if it helps, but HP-38 is the same powder as Win 231, if I remember right. That might help.

**Unclenick** · January 21, 2013, 11:50 AM

It is the same, but Hodgdon distributes both, so their load data is what there is on line and it is the same. Lee shows 231/HP38 with a 124 grain lead bullet with a starting load of 3.3 grains and a maximum of 4.0. That should be reasonable.

Hornady lists Power pistol for their 124 grain bullets that includes their discontinued swaged lead RN bullet without difference when seated to 1.090" COL. This has a range of 4.3 grains to 5.7 grains of Power Pistol. But I would probably expect to stop in the middle of that range with lead to avoid leading issues. So 4.3 to 5 grains is the range I would likely stick to.

January 21, 2013, 10:53 AM	#1
BoogieMan Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2012 Location: South Jersey Posts: 2,217	Sources for material needed I am new to this and because of s&h I have sourced powder local. Other than that I was able to find 200 primers. im loading 9mm to start. I have lead bullets on order from Midatlantic but I am having trouble finding loads using lead bullets with power pitol or hp-38. The alliant page doesnt offer any lead bullet data for power pistol. -Small pistol primers? -Jacketed & lead bullets? -Everything else? __________________ Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown Last edited by BoogieMan; January 21, 2013 at 11:02 AM.

January 21, 2013, 11:15 AM	#2
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,060	Without knowing what bullet shape or weight you ordered, nobody can address the charge question. Hodgdon's load data includes HP-38 data for a 115 grain lead round nose (LRN) and for a 125 grain lead conical nose (LCN) bullet. Alliant only has 9 mm data for Speer Gold Dot bullets, but knock those loads down 10% for same-weight lead, and you are likely to do OK. You can then work up slowly, watching for pressure signs. As to supplies, there is a shortage currently because the threat of new gun laws has produced panic buying and it coincides with the military and government agencies making stockpile orders for ammunition. Lots of competition. The supply lines are supposed to start catching up some items next month. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

January 21, 2013, 11:21 AM	#3
BoogieMan Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2012 Location: South Jersey Posts: 2,217	Sorry for the missed infor. 125gr round nose lead- http://store.midatlanticbullets.com/...e-1-1-1-5.aspx __________________ Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown

January 21, 2013, 11:50 AM	#5
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,060	It is the same, but Hodgdon distributes both, so their load data is what there is on line and it is the same. Lee shows 231/HP38 with a 124 grain lead bullet with a starting load of 3.3 grains and a maximum of 4.0. That should be reasonable. Hornady lists Power pistol for their 124 grain bullets that includes their discontinued swaged lead RN bullet without difference when seated to 1.090" COL. This has a range of 4.3 grains to 5.7 grains of Power Pistol. But I would probably expect to stop in the middle of that range with lead to avoid leading issues. So 4.3 to 5 grains is the range I would likely stick to. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle Last edited by Unclenick; January 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM.

January 21, 2013, 11:27 AM	#4
factoryrat Member Join Date: March 1, 2011 Posts: 54	I don't know if it helps, but HP-38 is the same powder as Win 231, if I remember right. That might help.