Need info on my 1880 smith and wesson 1st model 44 russian revolver - Page 2

bsheets20061 · January 8, 2011, 12:24 AM

well i have contacted a few different companies and nobody seems to work on this particular type of revolver so I guess it will go into the safe till I can find someone to work on it, or find the need to sell it, thanks for all the info and help.

Jim Watson · January 8, 2011, 11:05 AM

A friend and I had elderly S&Ws worked on by David Chicoine.
http://www.oldwestgunsmith.com/gunsmith/

He could make yours look good but it won't be cheap.

Radagast · January 10, 2011, 08:23 PM

Member Hammer IT has had some wonderful restorations done by Fords:
http://crosbydemo.com/index.html

Searching his name will bring up some great before & after pics. I've no idea wether they'll work on a topbreak, but it doesn't hurt to call them.

James K · January 10, 2011, 09:33 PM

Restorations, done right, are never cheap. That is why it is important to choose the item carefully, even if the restorer doesn't. I recall one old gun that a man had restored elsewhere after I advised against it. The restoration was good, but cost nearly $400, high at that time; the gun was worth $25 before and maybe $75 after, but the owner was happy.

Jim

BlueTrain · January 14, 2011, 12:56 PM

I noticed that those grips look like they would fit a current production round butt S&W revolver.

James K · January 14, 2011, 03:05 PM

Blue Train, they might. I have replaced grips on S&W breaktop .32 and .38 revolvers with grips from the J frame. They are a bit long (easily taken care of) but otherwise fit perfectly; even the pin is in the right place.

Jim

BlueTrain · January 14, 2011, 04:51 PM

The more things change, the more things stay the same. I also notice that some of the so-called classic S&W revolvers (which might be called reproductions, in a manner of speaking) actually have the very old style slim grips.

Gbro · January 14, 2011, 09:41 PM

NEW MODEL 44, No. 3.
Blued or Plated.
Central Fire, Double Action, six shot, weight 2 1/4 lbs.,
Cal 44-100, Length of barrel 4-inch, $17.50; 5-inch $17.81;
6-inch...$18.12; EXTRA, Pearl Stocks, $5.00; Ivory, 2.18.

Pictured with revolver is a cartridge marked 44 RUSSIAN

And the headline at the top of the page;
Smith & Wesson Automatic Revolvers.

January 14, 2011, 12:56 PM	#30
BlueTrain Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,141	I noticed that those grips look like they would fit a current production round butt S&W revolver. __________________ Shoot low, sheriff. They're riding Shetlands! Underneath the starry flag, civilize 'em with a Krag, and return us to our own beloved homes! Buy War Bonds.

January 14, 2011, 04:51 PM	#32
BlueTrain Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,141	The more things change, the more things stay the same. I also notice that some of the so-called classic S&W revolvers (which might be called reproductions, in a manner of speaking) actually have the very old style slim grips. __________________ Shoot low, sheriff. They're riding Shetlands! Underneath the starry flag, civilize 'em with a Krag, and return us to our own beloved homes! Buy War Bonds.

January 14, 2011, 09:41 PM	#33
Gbro Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,084	E. C. Meacham Arms Co., St. Louis (1884) NEW MODEL 44, No. 3. Blued or Plated. Central Fire, Double Action, six shot, weight 2 1/4 lbs., Cal 44-100, Length of barrel 4-inch, $17.50; 5-inch $17.81; 6-inch...$18.12; EXTRA, Pearl Stocks, $5.00; Ivory, 2.18. Pictured with revolver is a cartridge marked 44 RUSSIAN And the headline at the top of the page; Smith & Wesson Automatic Revolvers. __________________ Gbro CGVS For the message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, But to us who are being saved, It Is The Power Of God. 1Corinthians 1-18

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January 8, 2011, 12:24 AM	#26
bsheets20061 Member Join Date: March 31, 2009 Location: ohio Posts: 70	well i have contacted a few different companies and nobody seems to work on this particular type of revolver so I guess it will go into the safe till I can find someone to work on it, or find the need to sell it, thanks for all the info and help.

January 8, 2011, 11:05 AM	#27
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	A friend and I had elderly S&Ws worked on by David Chicoine. http://www.oldwestgunsmith.com/gunsmith/ He could make yours look good but it won't be cheap.

January 10, 2011, 08:23 PM	#28
Radagast Senior Member Join Date: July 13, 2001 Posts: 449	Member Hammer IT has had some wonderful restorations done by Fords: http://crosbydemo.com/index.html Searching his name will bring up some great before & after pics. I've no idea wether they'll work on a topbreak, but it doesn't hurt to call them.

January 10, 2011, 09:33 PM	#29
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Restorations, done right, are never cheap. That is why it is important to choose the item carefully, even if the restorer doesn't. I recall one old gun that a man had restored elsewhere after I advised against it. The restoration was good, but cost nearly $400, high at that time; the gun was worth $25 before and maybe $75 after, but the owner was happy. Jim

January 14, 2011, 03:05 PM	#31
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Blue Train, they might. I have replaced grips on S&W breaktop .32 and .38 revolvers with grips from the J frame. They are a bit long (easily taken care of) but otherwise fit perfectly; even the pin is in the right place. Jim