January 10, 2014, 09:43 PM | #51 |
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I would go with the 260 for this reason. It will push 100gr bullets to 3300 in a 22" barrel. Then, there are the wonderful 120, 129, and 140s!
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January 11, 2014, 01:41 PM | #52 |
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Againstthewind,
Shooting big calibers is not fun. I own a .47/70 Guide Gun. That thing flat hurts when shooting hand loads. I think the 7MM Rem Mag is the best long range rifle ever invented. The reason is it's generally the largest caliber that most hunters can shoot w/o excessive recoil causing flinching. It will shoot a lot father than nearly are hunters are capable of hitting targets. Further, there is magic in .284 projectiles. Their enviable sectional densities and ballistic coefficients are hard to beat unless one wants to move up to where excessive recoil dominates. Mark is right in that hunters owe it to animals that they intend to kill to put bullets in areas that will cause them to die quickly. What good is it to shoot & wound & never recover the biggest anything? If I am fortunate to even see a once-in-a-lifetime trophy elk, I won't shoot until my guide tells me to drop the hammer. And if I am drawn, I will practice until I am 100% confident that I can make a shot that my guide tells me. |
January 11, 2014, 05:43 PM | #53 |
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Sounds to me like your best second rifle is a 12 GA shotgun.
But, to keep it a rifle have you considered a .223? IMO you have the higher end covered. Or a .264 Win Mag. |
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January 13, 2014, 09:07 AM | #55 |
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I find it humerous that every time somebody asks a question such as these you get lots of people saying well (insert any weapon here) cant kill as good as (insert their preferred weapon here). I happen to know for a fact that a .22 lr pistol will kill a trophy elk (a relative of mine was arrested for poaching one with the given combination). It is like has been said thousands of times. It is all about shot placement. A .22 short in the right spot will kill faster than a 975 H&Weatherby magna-gernade miss. So hunting in my opinion is 98% shot placement not caliber or distance. So if i can make the perfect shot with a .243 Win I am better off than a shot i cannot make with a .30-06.
Now to answer the OP question. My Favorite weapon is my remington 700 adl in 7mm rem mag. It has outstanding ballistics even way out there, great selection of factory ammo and available components for hand loading. That said i do have a .243 Win (that has killed an AZ elk), .300 H&H Mag, 7mm mauser, .30-30, .30-06, .45-70, .50, .357 mag, .45 acp and multiple .22 lr But what do I know i am only a fat guy at home with his Ipad? |
January 13, 2014, 12:54 PM | #56 |
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Again, for someone with a very limited collection of one rifle, the suggestion of the second rifle to be very similar, just seems to me to be duplication and not expansion. No need to fine tune when you have very little to tune. If the O.P. can afford to go to Africa to hunt dangerous game, he can afford to buy the proper gun at the time. Buying a caliber in hopes that will someday happen is not a wise investment to me. I would want something I could use now, that is not replacing what I already have.....unless I was getting rid of what I already have. If he already has a caliber fairly appropriate for what he is hunting now, than maybe he needs something for the range, varmints, Cowboy Action or just shootin' tin cans out back. Most times, when I see folks asking "what gun do I need now?'' they don't really need a gun for a specific purpose, or they would have a general idea of what gun they needed, at least when it comes to caliber. They ask cause they want a gun, without having a real purpose for one.
If the OP knows his need and true desires, the caliber will be an easy choice. The maker or platform not so much. |
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