Facts RE: State of the Current Shortage

jmortimer · February 9, 2013, 11:21 PM

Article 2-9-2013 from Steve Quayle's site. Not sure about the issue of "Civil War" but this is unlike the 2008 run. It is 2008 on steroids.

"Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia :

Status of gun industry

Attention F.B. fans: to follow will be several IMPORTANT Info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an INVENTORY UPDATE: We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.

Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.

RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1. Remington-Maxed out!

Armalite: Maxed out.

DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.

COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.

LWRC:Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get enough gun quality steel to make barrels.

Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.

AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line.

MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.

RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we'll keep you posted...

Related commentary from Bob Owens :
They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn’t come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn’t just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants—of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20—were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I’ve never seen anything like it.

Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone. This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned. This is a society preparing for war."

http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=285

baccusboy · February 9, 2013, 11:24 PM

This was already debunked on another site.

Plus, Ruger has been at full capacity for several months now.

jmortimer · February 9, 2013, 11:32 PM

Well assuming that's true, and I don't doubt it, then take it with a grain of salt.

Double Naught Spy · February 11, 2013, 09:56 PM

Yeah, I have received this as an email and found several variants of this on the web with the facts changed around concerning the circumstances. No attribution to the original source. No citation of just what "Industry" meeting was in Texas though some were at the Texas State Rifle Association meeting and some at the Texas Rifle Association for the meeting. Sometimes it is a gun dealer. Sometimes it is a gun shop or a local gun shop that apparently isn't from Texas. Funny stuff.

Yes, Ruger hasn't been limping along at below capacity, LOL!

February 9, 2013, 11:21 PM	#1
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,763	Facts RE: State of the Current Shortage Article 2-9-2013 from Steve Quayle's site. Not sure about the issue of "Civil War" but this is unlike the 2008 run. It is 2008 on steroids. "Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia : Status of gun industry Attention F.B. fans: to follow will be several IMPORTANT Info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an INVENTORY UPDATE: We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told. Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages. RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days. FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1. Remington-Maxed out! Armalite: Maxed out. DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product. COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's. LWRC:Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get enough gun quality steel to make barrels. Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind. AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line. MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon. RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we'll keep you posted... Related commentary from Bob Owens : They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn’t come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn’t just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants—of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20—were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I’ve never seen anything like it. Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone. This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned. This is a society preparing for war." http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=285

February 11, 2013, 09:56 PM	#4
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Yeah, I have received this as an email and found several variants of this on the web with the facts changed around concerning the circumstances. No attribution to the original source. No citation of just what "Industry" meeting was in Texas though some were at the Texas State Rifle Association meeting and some at the Texas Rifle Association for the meeting. Sometimes it is a gun dealer. Sometimes it is a gun shop or a local gun shop that apparently isn't from Texas. Funny stuff. Yes, Ruger hasn't been limping along at below capacity, LOL! __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

February 9, 2013, 11:24 PM	#2
baccusboy Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2011 Posts: 147	This was already debunked on another site. Plus, Ruger has been at full capacity for several months now.

February 9, 2013, 11:32 PM	#3
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,763	Well assuming that's true, and I don't doubt it, then take it with a grain of salt.