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April 11, 2011, 11:59 AM | #26 |
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I should also mention that if you are wanting to shoot factory ammo, only the SSA tactical loads will shoot the 6.8 bullets faster than the 6.5 factory loads.
Does anyone know of another ammo manufacturer for the 6.8 that makes SPCII loads (don't know much about it since I only reload)? |
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Les Baer's web site states Black Hill's is supposed to start making the cartridge in three different weights as well. Then there are places like Northwest CP that make ammunition at a reasonable rate as well. Plus if a guy wanted to get into hand loading this would make for a very easy cartridge to start with.
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Longdayjake-- it happens, I have muffed a couple shots myself, it's what you do after that counts. Hunt long enough and it happens to all of us, well most of us, there are always a few that are lucky or perfect.
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I had given some thought to buying a 6.8 bolt action, for a deer rifle for my recoil shy daughter ...... I already load for .270 WIN, though the 100 and 110 grain varmint bullets may not work very well ...... then again, they were designed to come apart at .270 WIN velocities ..... at 6.8 speeds, they may hold together better........ what do you guys think?
Then again, it being a bolt action, I could have them put a long throat in it, and just launch 130 grain ballistic tips ...... just thinking out loud.... |
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Jinbob86, for 6.8spc use the Nosler 110 Accubond or Barnes 95gr TTSX
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I say the 6.8 SPC is better, hands down.
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April 11, 2011, 11:09 PM | #36 |
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I personally think that 6.8 makes a great AR caliber but a pretty sad bolt action.
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April 11, 2011, 11:30 PM | #37 |
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If you have a .270, just use that. I use Corelokt 130 gr ammo. Works just fine, not as sexyhighspeedlowdrag as this other stuff but it has been around long enough to have been proven effective.
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Lot of great info and discussion here guys, I appreciate all the input. At the moment im starting to lean towards the 6.8 SPC. Now, generally speaking will any manufacturers upper mate up positively with my lower? or are there any combinations i should avoid? For the record my AR-15 is a SR-556, for which ruger does make a 6.8 SPC upper for, but im not opposed to mixing and matching manufacturers as long as its perfectly reasonable to do so.
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Madball, If you get a 6.8, make sure it has a SPC2 chamber and 1:11-1:12 twist with 3-5 grooves. Each one of those options will allow a reduction in pressure and an increase in velocity. DO NOT GET THE RUGER 6.8, they use a SAAMI chamber and 1:10 6 groove barrel.
ARperformance or Bison Armory are the best options available in 6.8, and yes any AR15 upper will work on any AR15 lower.
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For once I agree with Bedlamite. The Ruger is indeed chambered for the anemic SPCI. Any other upper will fit on your lower. ARperformance is probably your best bet.
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I forgot to mention (though it is probably a moot point by now) that there is supposedly going to be some steel cased 6.5 grendel coming on the market that will be priced similarly to 7.62x39 steel cased stuff. Obviously it won't be premium ammunition, but at least it will be something to practice with.
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....... Or I could just say to hell with it, and start stocking yet another bullet diameter, and get Jac a .243 or .260 .........
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For me the reason that a 6.8 spcII is a poor bolt action gun is because the chamber is designed for reliability and velocity but not for accuracy. I like my bolt guns to be hyper accurate. Especially if I am going to go through the trouble to rebarrel an action. If you are just wanting to get something handy for your kids to use then there are plenty of other calibers that you won't have to get a special barrel for that will work just as well or better. .243 and .260 are good examples. Though they aren't as effecient from a 16" barrel they will probably get you more performance. |
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6.8 not accurate?
Take a look,,, and then try to tell me it's not accurate. This is from a target I was zeroing a new rear sight on. 10 shots fired at 100 yards. The first 4 were low and right. I clicked up and left 6 times with 6 shots. The 6th one touched the right lower edge of the square. My friend Bob Ellis was on the spotting scope and he told me "come up one and left one, and shoot me a group" I did as he said, and fired the last 4 rounds. Seems pretty accurate to me..... |
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My hell guys. All I said was that the chamber is not designed for high accuracy. I also said that some people do get high good accuracy from them. BUT the chamber of the SPCII is not one that leads to high accuracy. I didn't just make this up. I got it from the 6.8 forums.
Read post number 6 on this link. (written by a popular manufacturer of 6.8 stuff) http://68forums.com/forums/showthrea...l=1#post183239 Last edited by Longdayjake; April 13, 2011 at 10:06 AM. |
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Oh it's not a "counter attack" LongdayJake
Just showing the way things are with one of the 6.8s I have made. I have built about 30 of them. Some have only shot about 1 MOA or a bit over, , but a few like the one that I shot the above group with, shoot as well as about any rifle you can find. |
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It's not that a 6.8SPC gun can't be accurate. I spent good money getting ARP's barrel and expect it.
Longdayjake is referring to how the case diameter, shoulder angle, bullet length, and overall length can be selected to make a highly accurate caliber. Some features are better at it than others. The 6.8SPC designers deliberately chose not to include them because they were looking for more POWER from a 14.5" milspec 2MOA gun. Not setting a 600m record for smallest group. A short fat case, steep shoulder, and long bullet, even in the same overall length, will be inherently more accurate - but you have to shoot it at extreme ranges to take advantage of it, much less see it. The difference is the BC, which means the bullet loses less energy over longer distances, and takes longer to go subsonic and tumble. Just a matter of what you prioritize in the features you select. That's what the inventor of the PPC case design did, and he's earned a trophy case of collective awards that many others pulled the trigger on. Overall, the accurizing of either gun in it's caliber is about the same. Optic, furniture, and trigger varies little among the precision crowd. Without the caliber engraved on the port cover, you might not be able to see any difference. Sighted in at the same distance, most of the trajectory difference is covered with a candy wrapper. Longday shoots both calibers, it's an informed opinion. |
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