Which slug do you recommend?

stargazer65 · June 11, 2009, 06:18 AM

I'm going to be shooting some 20 gauge slugs (2-3/4) out of my 1100, it's a smoothbore. This will be just a casual outing at the range for familiarity. I'm looking for the minimal amount of recoil felt at my shoulder possible. What are your recommendations or opinions for manufacturer and type?

hogdogs · June 11, 2009, 08:22 AM

Personally, I use the federal slugs or Winchester Super X. The "super X" are 1,600 FPS with a 3/4 ounce slug. They are a full load regular slug. Fine from my 18 inch mossberg barrel for 6 or so inches at 65 yards... offhand.
But more than 10

I feel it. I do have limited strength in my left hand but that only affected me a bit.
Brent

stargazer65 · June 11, 2009, 08:30 AM

Brent,

I'm having trouble understanding this part of your response:

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Fine from my 18 inch mossberg barrel for 6 or so inches at 65 yards... offhand.
But more than 10 I feel it.

I think I understand now. Are you saying that you shoot a 6" group at 65 yards, and more than 10 slugs and your shoulder gets sore?

hogdogs · June 11, 2009, 08:50 AM

Sorry...
Yes that is what I meant...

Ain't had a cup o' joe yet!
Brent

stargazer65 · June 11, 2009, 09:08 AM

Understand...I'm on my second cup now so I'm good.

Sometimes the medium of printed words gets confusing when a lot of numbers fly around.

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Yaawwwnnnn...this is quite the boring thread I started.

(crickets chirp)

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Kinda like asking which brand of white bread has the best flavor................

(head nodding)

Al Thompson · June 11, 2009, 09:31 AM

Problem is that it's a 20. There are low/light recoil slugs for 12 ga, but I've never seen any for 20 ga.

As far as kick, I've not observed much difference in brands out of my shotguns. Your 1100 should be about the best thing going for recoil reduction. Perhaps you could add a folded towel or a strap on recoil pad?

HTH!

hogdogs · June 11, 2009, 09:36 AM

/\ /\ /\ /\ What Al said... I have never seen anything but full power.
If you find someone with a single shot 2o, I suggest you fire the first 3 thru it... Then your gun will feel like a .22 with a soft butter recoil pad!

My gun is a Mossberg 500 pump, Junior has an NEF and it is ABUSIVE BAD!

Brent

stargazer65 · June 11, 2009, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Perhaps you could add a folded towel or a strap on recoil pad?

That's probably what I really need. The stock butt on my 1100 is hard as a rock. So I get more sore from that than I do my 12 gauge pump which has a rubber shock aborbant cushion on it.

hogdogs · June 11, 2009, 09:41 AM

If it won't affect the action, Limbsaver recoil pads get high marks.
Brent

stargazer65 · June 11, 2009, 09:46 AM

How could a recoil pad affect the action?

hogdogs · June 11, 2009, 09:51 AM

Possibly the same way "limp wristing" a semi auto pistol will cause FTE's.
The main section of a semi has to be held fast so the recoil of the bolt allows it to travel fully. I am not sure of how much it affects semi auto shotguns though. I am but a dumb ol' redneck pump gun guy

Brent

stargazer65 · June 11, 2009, 10:18 AM

OK, I see what you are saying. I never had this happen yet...might be just luck. MIght have to ask that question separately.

...Maybe I'll do a forum search for recoil pads now.

Doyle · June 11, 2009, 11:11 AM

I've installed a few recoil pads lately. I've been going with Pachmayr. The main reason is that Limbsaver has a tendency to compromise and use one pad model for too many applications. For example, Limbsaver thinks that the Winchester model 70 and the model 94 use the same pad. Pachmayr recognizes there is a very slight size difference between the two applications and makes separate models for each of them. I've also done 2 pachmayr grind-to-fit models lately and both turned out very good. Not show-room quality but very decent for a shooter.

Brian Pfleuger · June 11, 2009, 11:27 AM

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That's probably what I really need. The stock butt on my 1100 is hard as a rock. So I get more sore from that than I do my 12 gauge pump which has a rubber shock aborbant cushion on it.

Get a Limbsaver. Night and day. Seriously. I went from an 870 with a brick on the end to an 1187 with a Limbsaver. (I did try the original 1187 brick also, just to see) The thing feels like a .410 now, by comparison.

In side by side comparisons, I have rarely, if ever, seen a product prefered over the Limbsaver.

stargazer65 · June 11, 2009, 11:36 AM

I'm thinking about getting one of these now:

Pachmayr NEW Decelelerator Magnum Slip-On Recoil Pads

or the Limbsaver version of it

Sounds like there might be some different opinions on which is better between Doyle and Peetz

(This has ceased being a slug thread and now is a recoil pad thread. It seems like the slug question was moot. However, that being said if anyone knows where to buy magic zero recoil 20 gauge slugs you may chime in anytime.)

Coyote Hitman · June 11, 2009, 11:49 AM

Remington copper solid- rifled barrel
Cheapo Winchester or Remington- smooth bore

Dave McC · June 12, 2009, 09:00 PM

The only 20 gauge slug I've used extensively in the Rottweil Brenekke. It kills like the 12 gauge slugs. However, it's not low recoil. A bit stiff,actually.

Re pads,there's examples of both the Decellerator and the Limbsaver here on divers guns, including shotguns.

Both are great. The sporting Pachmyer is a hair easier to mount consistently, the Sims( Limbsaver) a touch softer and better at attenuating kick.

KickEez is up there also. The big 1 3/8" Magnum pad is possibly the best at reducing kick.

HTH....

June 11, 2009, 06:18 AM	#1
stargazer65 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 761	Which slug do you recommend? I'm going to be shooting some 20 gauge slugs (2-3/4) out of my 1100, it's a smoothbore. This will be just a casual outing at the range for familiarity. I'm looking for the minimal amount of recoil felt at my shoulder possible. What are your recommendations or opinions for manufacturer and type? __________________ "I assert that nothing ever comes to pass without a cause." Jonathan Edwards

June 11, 2009, 09:08 AM	#5
stargazer65 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 761	Understand...I'm on my second cup now so I'm good. Sometimes the medium of printed words gets confusing when a lot of numbers fly around. . . . Yaawwwnnnn...this is quite the boring thread I started. (crickets chirp) . . Kinda like asking which brand of white bread has the best flavor................ (head nodding) __________________ "I assert that nothing ever comes to pass without a cause." Jonathan Edwards Last edited by stargazer65; June 11, 2009 at 09:20 AM.

June 11, 2009, 09:31 AM	#6
Al Thompson Staff Alumnus Join Date: May 2, 1999 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,611	Problem is that it's a 20. There are low/light recoil slugs for 12 ga, but I've never seen any for 20 ga. As far as kick, I've not observed much difference in brands out of my shotguns. Your 1100 should be about the best thing going for recoil reduction. Perhaps you could add a folded towel or a strap on recoil pad? HTH! __________________ http://www.scfirearms.org/

June 11, 2009, 09:46 AM	#10
stargazer65 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 761	How could a recoil pad affect the action? __________________ "I assert that nothing ever comes to pass without a cause." Jonathan Edwards

June 11, 2009, 10:18 AM	#12
stargazer65 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 761	OK, I see what you are saying. I never had this happen yet...might be just luck. MIght have to ask that question separately. ...Maybe I'll do a forum search for recoil pads now. __________________ "I assert that nothing ever comes to pass without a cause." Jonathan Edwards

June 11, 2009, 08:22 AM	#2
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Personally, I use the federal slugs or Winchester Super X. The "super X" are 1,600 FPS with a 3/4 ounce slug. They are a full load regular slug. Fine from my 18 inch mossberg barrel for 6 or so inches at 65 yards... offhand. But more than 10 I feel it. I do have limited strength in my left hand but that only affected me a bit. Brent

June 11, 2009, 08:50 AM	#4
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Sorry... Yes that is what I meant... Ain't had a cup o' joe yet! Brent

June 11, 2009, 09:36 AM	#7
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	/\ /\ /\ /\ What Al said... I have never seen anything but full power. If you find someone with a single shot 2o, I suggest you fire the first 3 thru it... Then your gun will feel like a .22 with a soft butter recoil pad! My gun is a Mossberg 500 pump, Junior has an NEF and it is ABUSIVE BAD! Brent

June 11, 2009, 09:41 AM	#9
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	If it won't affect the action, Limbsaver recoil pads get high marks. Brent

June 11, 2009, 09:51 AM	#11
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Possibly the same way "limp wristing" a semi auto pistol will cause FTE's. The main section of a semi has to be held fast so the recoil of the bolt allows it to travel fully. I am not sure of how much it affects semi auto shotguns though. I am but a dumb ol' redneck pump gun guy Brent

June 11, 2009, 11:11 AM	#13
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	I've installed a few recoil pads lately. I've been going with Pachmayr. The main reason is that Limbsaver has a tendency to compromise and use one pad model for too many applications. For example, Limbsaver thinks that the Winchester model 70 and the model 94 use the same pad. Pachmayr recognizes there is a very slight size difference between the two applications and makes separate models for each of them. I've also done 2 pachmayr grind-to-fit models lately and both turned out very good. Not show-room quality but very decent for a shooter.

June 11, 2009, 11:36 AM	#15
stargazer65 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 761	I'm thinking about getting one of these now: Pachmayr NEW Decelelerator Magnum Slip-On Recoil Pads or the Limbsaver version of it Sounds like there might be some different opinions on which is better between Doyle and Peetz (This has ceased being a slug thread and now is a recoil pad thread. It seems like the slug question was moot. However, that being said if anyone knows where to buy magic zero recoil 20 gauge slugs you may chime in anytime.) __________________ "I assert that nothing ever comes to pass without a cause." Jonathan Edwards

June 11, 2009, 11:49 AM	#16
Coyote Hitman Junior member Join Date: August 17, 2007 Posts: 88	Remington copper solid- rifled barrel Cheapo Winchester or Remington- smooth bore

June 12, 2009, 09:00 PM	#17
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	The only 20 gauge slug I've used extensively in the Rottweil Brenekke. It kills like the 12 gauge slugs. However, it's not low recoil. A bit stiff,actually. Re pads,there's examples of both the Decellerator and the Limbsaver here on divers guns, including shotguns. Both are great. The sporting Pachmyer is a hair easier to mount consistently, the Sims( Limbsaver) a touch softer and better at attenuating kick. KickEez is up there also. The big 1 3/8" Magnum pad is possibly the best at reducing kick. HTH....