Lee Classic Turret (4 hole)

EricBella · March 6, 2012, 02:56 PM

OK, so since im new to all this, and bugging you with all my questions

in what order do you set your dies up in? First, would be your full length sizer, with the decapper in it. Second, the collet neck sizer? with the decapper out of it? Third, the powder (I have a powder index) then lastly seat the bullet? any advice would help. thanks.

markr · March 6, 2012, 03:59 PM

You have things mixed up a little bit. You should re-read your manual a couple times. (No sarcasm intended). You didn't specify what you are loading for, but it sounds like a bottle necked rifle caliber. You don't use both sizing dies, it either/or depending on what you are doing. If you are loading new brass, or once fired brass from another rifle, you must use the full length re sizer. Once you have fired the brass from the intended rifle, you will have fire formed brass, THEN you can revert to the neck sizer and prolong case life, BUT, those loads can only be used in the rifle the brass was fire formed in. Since you have four stations, you may want to consider adding a crimp die. Depending on the caliber, crimping may be required, such as 30/30 or any other tubular fed rifle. Your die sequence should be as follows: Size, powder charge, seat, crimp. Hope that helps.

EricBella · March 6, 2012, 08:13 PM

yeah its for 30-30. I have a crimp die. so if its fired brass id use the full length resizer, and if its new brass i just use the neck sizer, correct? and then the crimp would be last.

ScottRiqui · March 6, 2012, 08:23 PM

Other way around - if it's fired brass, **and it was fired in the same gun you'll be using it in next time**, then you only need to neck-size, since the rest of the case will already be fire-formed to your gun's chamber. If it's unfired brass (or fired in a different gun), then full-length size it. Markr had it right - you may have just mis-read his post.

1) Size/decap/prime
2) Charge
3) Seat Bullet
4) Crimp

benzuncle · March 6, 2012, 08:25 PM

Congratulations on a fine choice for reloading. You Tube has videos on how to set up a LEE Classic Turret Press. I load 4 calibers on mine. I watched a You Tube video around Christmas time to figure out how to set up 38special dies to load 357magnum. LEE products are great; their instruction are not.

markr · March 6, 2012, 09:02 PM

Yeah, I didn't mention de-cap and prime during sizing since you can choose to do it seperately. Since the 30/30 is a meat-on-the-table gun, and you won't be taking it to Camp Perry, you could probably leave the full length sizing die in your press and just run with that. Just make sure to use a lube like Hornady One Shot that won't gum up the rest of the process on your press. 30/30 isn't aa very high pressure load, so you won't really be working the brass as much as other bottle necked cartridges, to worry about neck sizing and case life. You *must* crimp 30/30.

scsov509 · March 6, 2012, 10:48 PM

Quote:

so if its fired brass id use the full length resizer, and if its new brass i just use the neck sizer, correct?

If your 30/30 is a lever gun then you'll want to full length size every time to ensure the rounds feed correctly. Fire-forming cases to the chamber and then neck sizing is best suited for bolt rifles and not lever actions, pump actions, or semi-autos.

EricBella · March 7, 2012, 09:28 AM

OK, I understand this now. Makes sense. Thanks guys!

praetorian97 · March 7, 2012, 10:36 AM

My .02

Don't forget there's more than one way to skin a cat.

I de-prime Pistol/Rifle on a single stage and then Sonic Clean so I don't have a de-priming die.

When it comes to Rifle I lube and resize on a single stage because I have to trim it all. Then I start with my turret.

markr · March 7, 2012, 11:29 AM

SCSOV505, your right about full length sizing to ensure the round cycles in a lever action. I just wonder why they sell neck sizing dies for the 30/30? The primary benefit to neck sizing IS in bolt guns.

totaldla · March 7, 2012, 11:53 AM

Read the instructions.

BigPapa4147 · March 7, 2012, 01:08 PM

In the past, a few companies have made bolt-action rifles chambered in 30-30Win. Theres also the TC single shots. In those you could use neck sizing.

March 6, 2012, 02:56 PM	#1
EricBella Member Join Date: February 29, 2012 Posts: 21	Lee Classic Turret (4 hole) OK, so since im new to all this, and bugging you with all my questions in what order do you set your dies up in? First, would be your full length sizer, with the decapper in it. Second, the collet neck sizer? with the decapper out of it? Third, the powder (I have a powder index) then lastly seat the bullet? any advice would help. thanks.

March 6, 2012, 03:59 PM	#2
markr Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: Arsenal of Democracy Posts: 405	You have things mixed up a little bit. You should re-read your manual a couple times. (No sarcasm intended). You didn't specify what you are loading for, but it sounds like a bottle necked rifle caliber. You don't use both sizing dies, it either/or depending on what you are doing. If you are loading new brass, or once fired brass from another rifle, you must use the full length re sizer. Once you have fired the brass from the intended rifle, you will have fire formed brass, THEN you can revert to the neck sizer and prolong case life, BUT, those loads can only be used in the rifle the brass was fire formed in. Since you have four stations, you may want to consider adding a crimp die. Depending on the caliber, crimping may be required, such as 30/30 or any other tubular fed rifle. Your die sequence should be as follows: Size, powder charge, seat, crimp. Hope that helps. __________________ I like to make beer, bullets, and jerky.....but not at the same time. Washed up 11B1P

March 6, 2012, 09:02 PM	#6
markr Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: Arsenal of Democracy Posts: 405	Yeah, I didn't mention de-cap and prime during sizing since you can choose to do it seperately. Since the 30/30 is a meat-on-the-table gun, and you won't be taking it to Camp Perry, you could probably leave the full length sizing die in your press and just run with that. Just make sure to use a lube like Hornady One Shot that won't gum up the rest of the process on your press. 30/30 isn't aa very high pressure load, so you won't really be working the brass as much as other bottle necked cartridges, to worry about neck sizing and case life. You must crimp 30/30. __________________ I like to make beer, bullets, and jerky.....but not at the same time. Washed up 11B1P

March 7, 2012, 11:29 AM	#10
markr Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: Arsenal of Democracy Posts: 405	SCSOV505, your right about full length sizing to ensure the round cycles in a lever action. I just wonder why they sell neck sizing dies for the 30/30? The primary benefit to neck sizing IS in bolt guns. __________________ I like to make beer, bullets, and jerky.....but not at the same time. Washed up 11B1P

March 7, 2012, 11:53 AM	#11
totaldla Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2009 Location: SW Idaho Posts: 1,289	Read the instructions. __________________ Lee Auto Bench Prime Castor Oil Case Lube

March 6, 2012, 08:13 PM	#3
EricBella Member Join Date: February 29, 2012 Posts: 21	yeah its for 30-30. I have a crimp die. so if its fired brass id use the full length resizer, and if its new brass i just use the neck sizer, correct? and then the crimp would be last.

March 6, 2012, 08:23 PM	#4
ScottRiqui Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 2,905	Other way around - if it's fired brass, and it was fired in the same gun you'll be using it in next time, then you only need to neck-size, since the rest of the case will already be fire-formed to your gun's chamber. If it's unfired brass (or fired in a different gun), then full-length size it. Markr had it right - you may have just mis-read his post. 1) Size/decap/prime 2) Charge 3) Seat Bullet 4) Crimp

March 6, 2012, 08:25 PM	#5
benzuncle Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 357	Congratulations on a fine choice for reloading. You Tube has videos on how to set up a LEE Classic Turret Press. I load 4 calibers on mine. I watched a You Tube video around Christmas time to figure out how to set up 38special dies to load 357magnum. LEE products are great; their instruction are not.

March 7, 2012, 09:28 AM	#8
EricBella Member Join Date: February 29, 2012 Posts: 21	OK, I understand this now. Makes sense. Thanks guys!

March 7, 2012, 10:36 AM	#9
praetorian97 Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2011 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 455	My .02 Don't forget there's more than one way to skin a cat. I de-prime Pistol/Rifle on a single stage and then Sonic Clean so I don't have a de-priming die. When it comes to Rifle I lube and resize on a single stage because I have to trim it all. Then I start with my turret.

March 7, 2012, 01:08 PM	#12
BigPapa4147 Senior Member Join Date: September 20, 2009 Location: Westland, MI Posts: 116	30-30 neck sizing die In the past, a few companies have made bolt-action rifles chambered in 30-30Win. Theres also the TC single shots. In those you could use neck sizing. __________________ When ye are in the service of your fellow beings, ye are only in the service of your God.

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