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Old September 4, 2008, 10:01 AM   #1
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Any Enfield shooters here?

Two 1942 Savage #4's.




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Old September 4, 2008, 10:27 AM   #2
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nice rifles. Where did you get the cheek rests? You make those yourself?
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Old September 4, 2008, 11:06 AM   #3
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They came that way from 1942 on.

Any early rifles had the installed in the unit by the company level tech's.


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Old September 5, 2008, 12:18 PM   #4
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Which ones mine!?
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Old September 5, 2008, 07:39 PM   #5
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I have a nice one with the light beech stock like the lower one. Not a sniper. It is setting in it's khaki transit bag right now just because ammo is not so plentiful anymore. Besides cruddy old mixed lot green surplus or commercial loads $$$. Maybe if I were in some part of the empire there would be better lots of ammo floating around.
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Old September 5, 2008, 10:12 PM   #6
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Funny rifle

People like them or they don't. With all the little things you have do adapt to with one make or another. I was caught or seduced by this silly rifle with a two part stock and rear lugs. I had to learn to hand load so I could shoot the thing. Thats a road you don't want to go down. First thing you know you will be buying Mosin Nagant's from N. Korea.


Look for help now. Don't let you self sink to buying French rifles.



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Old September 6, 2008, 10:45 PM   #7
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I have a Lee Enfield No4MK1 that I picked up a little while back. Its a little worn, but I still love it.

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Old September 7, 2008, 02:00 AM   #8
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Very nice rifles you have there. I have two Enfields a No4 and a no.1 mk 3*. I really like my mk3. It is a Lithgow rifle made in '42, issued in'43. It is in very good condition despite the small pieces of shrapnel embedded in the buttstock. I've pretty much given up firing mine since the surplus ammo dried up. I have a box of WW2 ammo but it's for display not for shooting.
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Old September 7, 2008, 02:37 AM   #9
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Ooh, nice snipers!

I had to learn to reload to shoot mine also. My first Enfield, sort of, is a Model of 1917. It took awhile to figure out what to shoot in it bullet wt. wise. Then I got an Ishapore 2a and got into relaoding so I could shoot it; I researched the .308 vs. 7.62NATO and decided relaoding would be the thing to do.

Then, since I have a C&R lisence, I started looking on the auction sites, just to see. I next bought a 1943 BSA Shirley No.4 MkI and then a 1943 BSA No.4 MkI Maltby w/a pristine two groove barrel. Then I found a Fazakerly No.4 MkII w/a UF55 prefix, then a Longbranch No.4 Mk1/3 that looks like it was FTR'ed in India, Ishy screw, all matching and new looking, nice bore. And then my last one a PF50 Fazakerly No.4 MkII. The seller said it had a pitted bore(sigh), but it looked new and all matching. When it came in the mail I cleaned it. The bore had some pits and not much rifling near the muzzle. I scrubbed out the bore, oiled it and set it aside. A few months later I cleaned the bore again and set it aside. The next time I looked down the bore most of the pits were gone and the rifling looked pretty good, lucked out.

I have only been shooting and working up loads for the UF55 Faz and PF50 Faz I've shot some surplus ammo through. I have yet to take a moose with one of my .303's but more sooner than later I will.

Some day I am thinking of putting on a no-gunsmith scope mount on the Maltby and getting a replacement "sniper stock" for it. The two groove barrels were supposed to be fairly accurate.

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Old September 7, 2008, 08:57 AM   #10
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Enfields...

Sadly, I'm more an "owner" than a "shooter". I have a 1918-vintage BSA No.1Mk.III (not a III*, interestingly enough; as best I can gather, in the immediate postwar wind-down some rifles were actually made with the windage-adjustable rear, mag cut-off, and volley sights again,) and a very late production Fazakerly No.4Mk.II, one of the batch of "unissued" rifles that came into the country a few years back. I don't know it my Faz was actually "unissued", but it is definitely pristine.

Unfortunately, as a city-dweller, I get a lot more chance to shoot pistols than rifles, and I have yet to pull a trigger on either of these... well, I'm not sure I'd call Enfields "beauties", but you get the picture.
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Old September 7, 2008, 10:31 AM   #11
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Enfields

I have one .308 now.


Building another (on the btm) soon and restoring a 1945 #4T (top pic.)



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Old September 8, 2008, 01:01 PM   #12
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I have a nice #1 Mk 111. pretty old gal. I added a cheek rest also.
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Old September 8, 2008, 01:27 PM   #13
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"...given up firing mine since the surplus ammo dried up..." The supplies of good milsurp .303 ball dried up long ago. Reloading fixes that.
Slug the bore(Lee-Enfield barrels can measure between .311" and .315" and still be considered ok. Over .315", the barrel is shot out) to find out what the actual diameter is, then use the closest diameter bullet. Most manufacturer's make .311" or .312" bullets. Steve at .303british.com is making .313" and .314" 200 grain jacketed bullets.
With any Lee-Enfield check the headspace.
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Old September 13, 2008, 08:32 AM   #14
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Did a trade for this a few weeks back

Never tampered with 1942 MkI




I roll my own .303 and 7.62X54R.

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Old September 13, 2008, 11:01 PM   #15
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Shooters, indeed!

I won't own 'em if I cannot shoot 'em.

1944-dated BSA No5Mk1:



1941-dated Aussie Lithgow NoIMkIII*, with Weaver K4 for Mrs. G-98:



1917-dated Enfield Lock NoIMkIII*, my favorite of the batch:



And remember kids, neck-sizing dies are the Bee's Knees for reloading .303 British!
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Old September 14, 2008, 10:59 AM   #16
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Neck sizing +++++++++




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Old September 30, 2008, 09:42 PM   #17
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adapters

I have a win cartridge adapter for 303.shoots 32acp.very neat I have them in 06/8 mm/303.also make my own reloads,Lee 312-160 TL 16 grs red dot.
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Old September 30, 2008, 11:23 PM   #18
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Gewehr98: That's a nice #5 you have there. I have one from Burma, dated Feb. of '44 from Frazackerly(sp?). The bore is shot out though. Bullets hit sideways at less than 15 yards. I'll either keep it as is or rebarrel it sometime. Maybe in a different caliber.

I like shooting my Ishey .308 with cast loads and want to start reloading for my #4,II* as it's such a shooter with new factory ammo. I picked up an Indian wire wrapped grenade rifle with the cup launcher & would like to make blank loads for it, but the bolt won't close on a round. Very nice rifle with a like new bore. I'll have to find some different bolt heads for it I guess.


I do have a 1945 Lithgow III*, but it's one of those Gibbs/Navy Arms 45/70 conversions.
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Old November 12, 2008, 06:16 PM   #19
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No. 4 Mk1

I am waiting on my first enfield in the mail, should be here next week.

Pics on the way gentlemen.

This gun has been my dream gun for a long time and when I can afford/find a good one a No. 5 will be next!

Have a good one!

How did you do those sniper conversions on the first post?
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Old November 12, 2008, 06:37 PM   #20
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I did not do them

Those are #4T rifles as issued.

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Old November 15, 2008, 01:49 AM   #21
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My 1943 ROF(F) No 4 MK 1:


And it doesn't shoot too bad, either.:
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Old November 19, 2008, 12:33 PM   #22
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I've carried a '27 No.1 Mk. III (no *) for the past 6 years in the deer woods. I recently found a set of match grade Hornady dies at a YARD SALE for $5... I reaload with Speer 150gr SP's that are .311". Extremely accurate in my rifle.
And down here in Arkansas, commercial .303 rounds are cheap ($15/box) where I shop.
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Old November 19, 2008, 02:27 PM   #23
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At one time I had nice collection of No4s including one from every maker. I gradually found myself shooting my Garands and 03s more, so sold off most of my LEs.

I'm down now to a never issued Faz No4 Mk2, a NZ marked LB (pristene - appears to have never been issued) and a Greek issued LB. The Greek issue LB is my shooter. I put a PH sight on it and it is a very accurate rifle.
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Old November 19, 2008, 07:42 PM   #24
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Aussie SMLE shooter

G’day.

Here in Australia there are many Enfield’s still kicking round.

A lot of the early No1 MkIII have been sporterized and ruined in my humble opinion but there are still a lot around that retain the full wood and military markings.

I have an original 1943 Lithgow SMLE No1 MkIII* with all matching numbers, the barrel is a little pitted but it still shoots very well and the throat is not too eroded. Coupled with its 1907 bayonet it looks and feels great. The SMLE holds dear to many Australians as it was used by our troops in WW1 & WW2, personally for me my grandfather fought in Tobruk with a rifle identical to the one I now own and it is a humbling feeling to shoot a rifle like he would have used to fight with in war.

As some have mentioned in there posts it is very advisable to neck size the 303 case as many have done a lot of work and the throats are generally quite long, another thing to watch for with the No1’s is head space being excessive, the bolt head just screws out and there are many that have been made up of bits and pieces and had any old bolt head screwed on without headspace being checked. I have seen several friends rifles that stretch the cases excessively, this may be something you can get away with if your only using your brass once but if you reload they are bound to fail and have a head separation sooner or later.

I will try to post some pics of my SMLE in the near future.

Cheers from down under….
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Old November 20, 2008, 09:39 AM   #25
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Wolf sells .303 in the "wolf Gold" line of brass cased ammo.
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