pls help i.d. this b.p.m.l.

doublediamond · August 4, 2008, 02:06 PM

i would like to know what i have it is missing trigger sping and two screws on the stock one for trigger gaurd and one for tigger mount
and a peace of the stock metal opposite the hammer
it is not in bad condition but might be considered good
i think this is a very old muzzel loader but do not want to sell
thank you for any help

Scorch · August 4, 2008, 03:08 PM

At one time, it may have been a very nice rifle, with fancy stock and iron hardware. It could have been made by any of hundreds of arms makers, it's impossible to tell by the photo. Looks like a wall-hanger now. The stock is broken and patched in several places, the lock is held in place with metal pieces nailed to the stock, the hammer is corroded beyond the point of being unsafe. I would assume, given the condition of the rest of the gun, that the barrel is also beyond salvaging.

doublediamond · August 4, 2008, 03:31 PM

how do i find out maker and year i can take other pics
thank you for you help

SDC · August 4, 2008, 04:11 PM

If there are any markings on this rifle, they should be either on the lockplate (the flat piece that the hammer is mounted against), or along the top of the barrel, but they were normally engraved by hand and so may be difficult to see.

James K · August 4, 2008, 07:42 PM

As it is it is nothing but an old junker, not worth even trying to research unless something is obvious. It was obviously once a good gun but was heavily used and badly repaired. A nice wall hanger.

Jim

August 4, 2008, 03:08 PM	#2
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	At one time, it may have been a very nice rifle, with fancy stock and iron hardware. It could have been made by any of hundreds of arms makers, it's impossible to tell by the photo. Looks like a wall-hanger now. The stock is broken and patched in several places, the lock is held in place with metal pieces nailed to the stock, the hammer is corroded beyond the point of being unsafe. I would assume, given the condition of the rest of the gun, that the barrel is also beyond salvaging. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

August 4, 2008, 04:11 PM	#4
SDC Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2001 Location: People's Republic of Kanada Posts: 1,652	If there are any markings on this rifle, they should be either on the lockplate (the flat piece that the hammer is mounted against), or along the top of the barrel, but they were normally engraved by hand and so may be difficult to see. __________________ Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.

August 4, 2008, 03:31 PM	#3
doublediamond Junior Member Join Date: August 4, 2008 Posts: 2	how do i find out maker and year i can take other pics thank you for you help

August 4, 2008, 07:42 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	As it is it is nothing but an old junker, not worth even trying to research unless something is obvious. It was obviously once a good gun but was heavily used and badly repaired. A nice wall hanger. Jim