pyrodex other substitutes, and black powder ?

zip · February 22, 2000, 12:45 AM

do all these run the same messured volumes what i mean is dose say a 30 gr. charge the same with all or is there a diffence in volume bettwen them ?or any other differances ? the reason im wondering is right now im using pyro but would like to try out some of the others but need to know what the differences are

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oneshotonekill

Bill Mitchell · February 22, 2000, 10:12 AM

Howdy Zip,

Treat Pyrodex and BP the same as far as amounts go. Just measure both by volume,and you'll be OK. The differences are minimal. Pyrodex can be used with bullets lubed for smokeless powder,but use SPG or another BP lube for BP loads,otherwise your fouling will be terrible. Pyrodex also make pellets which make loading a C&B very easy,and they can also be used to load cartridges.

Bellicose Bill

bergie · February 23, 2000, 11:43 PM

zip,
Some of the other substitutes do not measure out the same. I have a .50 caliber Traditions muzzleloader that I target shoot and deer hunt with and have looked at 2 of the other bp subs. I have not used them, but a local shop has both Cleanshot, and Black Canyon. www.cleanshot.com is obviously the website for the Cleanshot bp sub, interesting stuff in that they recommend NO bullet lubes or cleanings during shooting. It is a volume substition like pyro. Can't remember the name of the company that makes Black Canyon, but if I remember right it does not measureout the same by volume. I could be wrong, it has been quite a while since I looked at it.
hope this helps,
Bergie

February 22, 2000, 12:45 AM	#1
zip Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 1999 Posts: 207	do all these run the same messured volumes what i mean is dose say a 30 gr. charge the same with all or is there a diffence in volume bettwen them ?or any other differances ? the reason im wondering is right now im using pyro but would like to try out some of the others but need to know what the differences are ------------------ oneshotonekill

February 22, 2000, 10:12 AM	#2
Bill Mitchell Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 15, 1998 Location: Roswell,GA Posts: 433	Howdy Zip, Treat Pyrodex and BP the same as far as amounts go. Just measure both by volume,and you'll be OK. The differences are minimal. Pyrodex can be used with bullets lubed for smokeless powder,but use SPG or another BP lube for BP loads,otherwise your fouling will be terrible. Pyrodex also make pellets which make loading a C&B very easy,and they can also be used to load cartridges. Bellicose Bill

February 23, 2000, 11:43 PM	#3
bergie Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 1999 Posts: 567	zip, Some of the other substitutes do not measure out the same. I have a .50 caliber Traditions muzzleloader that I target shoot and deer hunt with and have looked at 2 of the other bp subs. I have not used them, but a local shop has both Cleanshot, and Black Canyon. www.cleanshot.com is obviously the website for the Cleanshot bp sub, interesting stuff in that they recommend NO bullet lubes or cleanings during shooting. It is a volume substition like pyro. Can't remember the name of the company that makes Black Canyon, but if I remember right it does not measureout the same by volume. I could be wrong, it has been quite a while since I looked at it. hope this helps, Bergie