1911 conversion to 7.62x25 tokarev

cougar gt-e · February 10, 2011, 12:26 AM

Hi,

Just saw that J&G sales has a kit to convert a 38super or 9mm 1911 to shoot tokarev ammo. Won't work with 45acp pistols.

Thought I would pass it on to any interested party.

Jim Watson · February 10, 2011, 12:29 AM

And read the fine print on AR15.com

The 7.62x25 is longer than .38 Super and you cannot get but a few rounds in the magazine at a slant.
Of course you can handload with stubby flatpoint or hollowpoint bullets but that kind of works against the idea of a good standard gun to shoot Iron Curtain surplus. The AR15.com thread describes deep seating bullets on surplus to get 9 in the magazine... if you don't mind scary flat primers.

gyvel · February 10, 2011, 04:55 AM

Those guns that were converted to 7.62x25 (either by the Chinese or Vietnamese; I was never clear on that) had both the front and rear wall thicknesses of the magazine wells reduced substantially and new, longer magazines were made. A guy had some at a gun show back in the 80s along with some Type 38 Arisaka carbines that had been converted to 7.62x39. None of them were in particularly good condition and I have no idea how well they would have shot. In particular, the front gripstrap looked really thin due to the modification of the mag well.

inkyspot40 · February 11, 2011, 12:19 AM

All I have ever seen were done by the Vietnamese. Most were vary crud, converted with hand tools in some hut. Thy used a different mag. Thy had to cut the back of the frame with a hack saw in most cases and widen it.the ones I have seen looked like the frame was welded with a torch and the top of a sea rat can. If you want a plinker in 762\25 Shot gun news just did a AR conversion that did not look to hard.

Don P · February 11, 2011, 09:35 AM

My question is, why would one want to do this? 22lr will be a cheaper conversion and is shown to work. Just my opinion now.

February 10, 2011, 12:26 AM	#1
cougar gt-e Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2009 Posts: 1,003	1911 conversion to 7.62x25 tokarev Hi, Just saw that J&G sales has a kit to convert a 38super or 9mm 1911 to shoot tokarev ammo. Won't work with 45acp pistols. Thought I would pass it on to any interested party.

February 11, 2011, 09:35 AM	#5
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	My question is, why would one want to do this? 22lr will be a cheaper conversion and is shown to work. Just my opinion now. __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

February 10, 2011, 12:29 AM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,541	And read the fine print on AR15.com The 7.62x25 is longer than .38 Super and you cannot get but a few rounds in the magazine at a slant. Of course you can handload with stubby flatpoint or hollowpoint bullets but that kind of works against the idea of a good standard gun to shoot Iron Curtain surplus. The AR15.com thread describes deep seating bullets on surplus to get 9 in the magazine... if you don't mind scary flat primers.

February 10, 2011, 04:55 AM	#3
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Those guns that were converted to 7.62x25 (either by the Chinese or Vietnamese; I was never clear on that) had both the front and rear wall thicknesses of the magazine wells reduced substantially and new, longer magazines were made. A guy had some at a gun show back in the 80s along with some Type 38 Arisaka carbines that had been converted to 7.62x39. None of them were in particularly good condition and I have no idea how well they would have shot. In particular, the front gripstrap looked really thin due to the modification of the mag well.

February 11, 2011, 12:19 AM	#4
inkyspot40 Junior Member Join Date: February 10, 2011 Location: urbana ohio Posts: 1	All I have ever seen were done by the Vietnamese. Most were vary crud, converted with hand tools in some hut. Thy used a different mag. Thy had to cut the back of the frame with a hack saw in most cases and widen it.the ones I have seen looked like the frame was welded with a torch and the top of a sea rat can. If you want a plinker in 762\25 Shot gun news just did a AR conversion that did not look to hard.