SBR question

Dustin0 · September 11, 2009, 01:01 PM

I was thinking of getting an AR15 Pistol and putting a 6 position stock on it. I am in Kentucky so there no state or local problems. Do I need to fill out form 4 for SBR and can this be done? Just wanting to know if this can be done legally?

greensteelforge · September 11, 2009, 01:04 PM

Kentucky is still a state under the regulation of the Federal government, so you still need to fill out the proper ATF forms, and register the gun. States can make more restrictive laws, but cannot exempt citizens from federal regulation.

Dustin0 · September 11, 2009, 01:12 PM

I guess I didnt work that right. I was wanting to know what in need to do so that its legal under the Federal laws.

flight954 · September 11, 2009, 02:13 PM

Form 1

Dustin0 · September 11, 2009, 02:16 PM

So if I have this right I buy this pistol the fill out form 1 pay the tax stamp the when I get everything back approved. I can install the stock. Correct ?

Willie Lowman · September 11, 2009, 02:46 PM

Yep. However, to be in possession of the stock and the pistol without the form 1 at the same time could get you in trouble. Possessive construction is what they call it.

Legion2600 · September 11, 2009, 06:06 PM

Yea, just form 1 it.

22_Shooter · September 12, 2009, 08:11 AM

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Yep. However, to be in possession of the stock and the pistol without the form 1 at the same time could get you in trouble. Possessive construction is what they call it.

Maybe if all you owned was an AR pistol and a stock.

I wouldn't worry if you have a safe with a couple regular AR rifles and spare buttstocks (who doesn't have spare parts for their guns?)......and an AR pistol.

I understand the whole "possessive construction" and "intent" matters.....but like I said, I would think that would only apply if you just had an AR pistol and just a random AR stock laying around (with no other guns for it to legally be installed on).

Then again, I'm no lawyer, and I didn't stay a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Yellowfin · September 12, 2009, 10:39 AM

Minor detail, it's constructive possession. Possessive construction is done by really greedy contractors.

Willie Lowman · September 12, 2009, 02:03 PM

Thank you Yellowfin and 22.

September 11, 2009, 01:01 PM	#1
Dustin0 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 701	SBR question I was thinking of getting an AR15 Pistol and putting a 6 position stock on it. I am in Kentucky so there no state or local problems. Do I need to fill out form 4 for SBR and can this be done? Just wanting to know if this can be done legally?

September 11, 2009, 02:46 PM	#6
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	Yep. However, to be in possession of the stock and the pistol without the form 1 at the same time could get you in trouble. Possessive construction is what they call it. __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

September 12, 2009, 10:39 AM	#9
Yellowfin Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2007 Location: Lancaster Co, PA Posts: 2,311	Minor detail, it's constructive possession. Possessive construction is done by really greedy contractors. __________________ Students for Concealed Carry on Campus http://www.concealedcampus.org "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws--that's insane!" - Penn Jillette

September 12, 2009, 02:03 PM	#10
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	Thank you Yellowfin and 22. __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

September 11, 2009, 01:04 PM	#2
greensteelforge Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Posts: 90	Kentucky is still a state under the regulation of the Federal government, so you still need to fill out the proper ATF forms, and register the gun. States can make more restrictive laws, but cannot exempt citizens from federal regulation.

September 11, 2009, 01:12 PM	#3
Dustin0 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 701	I guess I didnt work that right. I was wanting to know what in need to do so that its legal under the Federal laws.

September 11, 2009, 02:13 PM	#4
flight954 Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 2006 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 933	Form 1

September 11, 2009, 02:16 PM	#5
Dustin0 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 701	So if I have this right I buy this pistol the fill out form 1 pay the tax stamp the when I get everything back approved. I can install the stock. Correct ?

September 11, 2009, 06:06 PM	#7
Legion2600 Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 108	Yea, just form 1 it.