Saiga 12... Whats going on with ATF?

9mm · August 18, 2011, 11:16 AM

So I heard they are banning the imports of Saiga 12's gun stores are telling people to buy them before they go up like dragonov's and be worth 1,000's..

Whats going on? will they start making them in the country like 92fs and no importors ones? I am confused.

I really thought about buying one, a few gun shops have a few left and time is short.

Technosavant · August 18, 2011, 01:26 PM

The ATF is undergoing a self study regarding the importability of certain shotguns.

Their publication regarding it can be found here. Please note, despite what the alarmist emails and the gun shop scuttlebutt says, it will NOT affect the Saiga 12, as imported (it is considered sporting in stock form, and NO, the detachable magazine is NOT what will condemn a gun). Guns like the Chinese reproduction of the 1897 "Trench Gun" may run afoul of it courtesy of such features as the bayonet mount.

There's no shortage of threads on here about it, and a search should turn them up.

rottieman33 · August 18, 2011, 05:28 PM

There not getting banned. I have heard this crap sense the first of the year about this "Study" I have a Saiga 12 I use it for sport, Skeet/trap shooting and hunting. If you want 1 buy one because that study is bull crap. What they going to do come to your house and ask for it.

Sgt Pepper · August 18, 2011, 05:54 PM

If you have the wherewithal, then just buy one and stop the worrying. You will not regret it in any event. I haven't. They are a blast (pun may be intended) to own and shoot. Nevermind the Barbie-for-men aspect of it all.

Rottieman, I like your style! Who's barrel shroud is that?

rottieman33 · August 18, 2011, 07:54 PM

Barrel Shroud made by this guy he does great work.

http://www.1alumalite.com/s12.html

9mm · August 18, 2011, 08:08 PM

Will these drop down in price soon? this is insane, going for $900 in some parts.

oneounceload · August 18, 2011, 08:27 PM

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Will these drop down in price soon? this is insane, going for $900 in some parts

Not as long as there is a demand for them at that price

Para Cassatt · August 18, 2011, 10:05 PM

Our distributor has them in stock for $599-$629. Lew Horton has also had them in the past couple months at this price range.

**Tom Servo** · August 18, 2011, 10:42 PM

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Barrel Shroud made by this guy he does great work.

That's not a barrel shroud. I don't see how it goes over the shoulder.

The Saiga is not banned. It's just very hard to get right now, and prices at the wholesale level have jumped about 25% since last year. Combine those factors, and you've got a recipe for GunBroker gouging.

chasep255 · August 18, 2011, 11:10 PM

I feel as if fast and furious has overshadowed the whole sporting shotgun thing.

August 18, 2011, 11:16 AM	#1
9mm Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2011 Location: Land of the Free Posts: 2,834	Saiga 12... Whats going on with ATF? So I heard they are banning the imports of Saiga 12's gun stores are telling people to buy them before they go up like dragonov's and be worth 1,000's.. Whats going on? will they start making them in the country like 92fs and no importors ones? I am confused. I really thought about buying one, a few gun shops have a few left and time is short.

August 18, 2011, 10:05 PM	#8
Para Cassatt Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2010 Location: South Carolina Posts: 117	Our distributor has them in stock for $599-$629. Lew Horton has also had them in the past couple months at this price range. __________________ Have you taken someone shooting lately?

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August 18, 2011, 01:26 PM	#2
Technosavant Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO area Posts: 4,040	The ATF is undergoing a self study regarding the importability of certain shotguns. Their publication regarding it can be found here. Please note, despite what the alarmist emails and the gun shop scuttlebutt says, it will NOT affect the Saiga 12, as imported (it is considered sporting in stock form, and NO, the detachable magazine is NOT what will condemn a gun). Guns like the Chinese reproduction of the 1897 "Trench Gun" may run afoul of it courtesy of such features as the bayonet mount. There's no shortage of threads on here about it, and a search should turn them up.

August 18, 2011, 05:28 PM	#3
rottieman33 Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 223	There not getting banned. I have heard this crap sense the first of the year about this "Study" I have a Saiga 12 I use it for sport, Skeet/trap shooting and hunting. If you want 1 buy one because that study is bull crap. What they going to do come to your house and ask for it.

August 18, 2011, 05:54 PM	#4
Sgt Pepper Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 811	If you have the wherewithal, then just buy one and stop the worrying. You will not regret it in any event. I haven't. They are a blast (pun may be intended) to own and shoot. Nevermind the Barbie-for-men aspect of it all. Rottieman, I like your style! Who's barrel shroud is that?

August 18, 2011, 07:54 PM	#5
rottieman33 Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 223	Barrel Shroud made by this guy he does great work. http://www.1alumalite.com/s12.html

August 18, 2011, 08:08 PM	#6
9mm Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2011 Location: Land of the Free Posts: 2,834	Will these drop down in price soon? this is insane, going for $900 in some parts.

August 18, 2011, 11:10 PM	#10
chasep255 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 727	I feel as if fast and furious has overshadowed the whole sporting shotgun thing.