Show off your Wartime guns...

[sgms]

Nice piece of family history you got there Bozz10mm. Those Roth Styer's have always interested me but I never found one for sale when I had money to spend, some day maybe.

[noonesshowmonkey]

For some reason I figured a cheeky late 20 / early 30 something would have posted this thread full of the kit they carried in OEF / OIF...

[Carmady]

My great great grandfather used this in the Civil War, Colt 1851 Navy.

[spacecoast]

Carmady, what a great piece of family history

highpower3006, that is a gorgeous Luger. I'm jealous, I have been looking for a really nice WWI piece like that.

[tallball]

British SMLE rifle manufactured in Australia, in 1942 if I recall correctly.
Russian Nagant revolver manufactured in 1944.
Russian Mosin Nagant rifle manufactured in 1929 and most likely used in WWII.

I will try to post some pics later today. The Russian ones I shoot occasionally just for fun. I have used the SMLE as a deer rifle quite a few times.

[aarondhgraham]

My one and only would be Margaux,,,
8mm French Lebel revolver,,,
Model 1892-mfg 1903.



I had a 1911 that was carried in two WW-II south pacific beach landings,,,
As well as being the sidearm for it's promoted owner in Korea.

It belonged to the oldest of my Pop's brothers, Captain Acey Standridge,,,
We discovered he had a wife and daughter a few years back,,,
The daughter had contacted my Pop after 50+ years.

She was ecstatic that I had the handgun after all these years,,,
We transferred posession to her and she had it restored,,,
It was in dismal condition by the time I got ahold of it.

Last but not least is my 8mm K-98 Mauser,,,
Great uncle Bantie brought it back from Europe after WW-II.

Aarond

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[walks with gun]

The only wartime guns I have are the ones I've tried to sneak into the house.

[Sgt127]

From the Walther factory to my dads hands to me. My dad took over the Walther factory at the end of the war (not by himself).
He got along well with all the folks there and they gave him this as a gift. Based on serial number, its likely the last engraved Walther to leave the factory and was originally intended to be a presentation to a very high ranking, highly decorated German General. Still doing a little research...

[jaughtman]

Nice.....what exactly did your dad do at the factory? Fascinating.

J

[Sgt127]

He was a Master Sergeant, ordnance. Told me they had spread out production in the neighborhood. Hans was finishing triggers at his house, Karl was finishing hammers at his house etc. then all the parts were assembled at the factory and the guns completed. I think they were trying to avoid losing everything if the factory got bombed.

He got everyone and all the tooling back to the factory and put together as many guns as they could. They were packaged up and, according to my dad, sent to the Russians.

I asked him why he didnt grab more stuff. He told me he had "piles of swords, guns, uniforms, helmets etc stacked up curb to curb, three feet high" that he had to get rid of. Said he "just didn't give a [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color] about seeing any more of that crap and sure didn't want more".

[lamarw]

Another WWI Era M1911

[sgms]

Add a ww 1 mixup luger all numbers match but barrel magazines and stock think in may have been exported between the wars as a Luger Carbine.
And a military proofed Mauser that arrived here by way of China
Lastly a plain ww 2 .38 Webley

[Stevie-Ray]

1916 DWM Luger with holster and "Captured Enemy Equipment" certificate. It was "liberated" by a friend in France.

[jad0110]

DWM P.08 Luger, manufactured in 1920:





Finnish Model 1939 Service Rifle, Tula Receiver dated 1898 and a SAKO barrel from January 1945:





H&R Reising Model 65, .22 LR - uncertain but given the low sub 5,000 serial number its a good chance it was a WWII USMC training rifle:





SKS Type 56 - not sure when it was made, but this was a rifle my grandfather brought back from Vietnam:





GM Inland M-1 Carbine, matching barrel and receiver both dated January 1944:





US Rifle Caliber .30, M1. Springfield Armory, matching barrel and receiver dated January 1941. All drawing numbers correct generation.

[spacecoast]

Jad0110 -

That Luger appears to have military markings, meaning it's unlikely it was manufactured in 1920. Is the chamber marked?

Stevie - Ray -

That Luger appears to maybe be nickel plated? (hopefully not)

[jad0110]

And sorry about posting the rifle pics, I didn't quite follow the OP's original intent ... sorry .

Jad0110 -

That Luger appears to have military markings, meaning it's unlikely it was manufactured in 1920. Is the chamber marked?

It does have very faint military markings. They are in fair to poor condition, not like some of the nicer S/42s I've seen that had much sharper markings.

Roughly where on the chamber would it be marked?

It was originally made in 1920, but it was reworked by the Nazis at some point, I'm guessing sometime in the in the mid to late 1930s. Still, all the serial numbers I noted match, save for one ... it may have been the cross pin holding the toggle mechanism in place, but I'm having trouble remembering at the moment.

[Stevie-Ray]

Stevie - Ray -

That Luger appears to maybe be nickel plated? (hopefully not)

It was hard chromed after the war, as was a general practice for so many. Appears to have a decorative chrome applied as well, but the process wasn't explained fully to me by the member of the Greatest Generation that gave it to me, only that it was "hard chromed." Chroming nearly eliminated collector value, but it doesn't matter to me as I would never sell it.

[spacecoast]

jad0110 -

It's the 1920 chamber marking I was asking about, very interesting. I need to do some more research on it, presumably this is a military gun that was finished after the conclusion of the war.

Stevie - Ray -

Too bad about the chrome, but as you say it was likely done long ago when these guns were very common. I'm looking for a nice original unit marked DWM, preferably before 1915.

[spacecoast]

jad0110 -

This thread at lugerforum.com has an interesting discussion on the 1920 and 1921 chamber marked Lugers (not the double dated ones, only one date). You may have to join in order to see it.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=32406

Here's the essence:

It is a police Luger. I have S.W.I. 764. with serial number 87156. This indicates hat it was the property of the Schutzpolizei (Schupo) command in Frankfurt am Main in the Wiesbaden Administrative District, weapon number 764. Yours is weapon number 651. This pistol is one of the anomalous 1921 dated DWM’s with a five-digit serial number. They are a cross between military and commercial models that DWM apparently put together about the time that their military production was shut down by the IMKK (Interallied Military Control Commission). The IMKK was a commission of victorious allies that was formed to insure that military and police activities conformed to the Treaty of Versailles. (The above information was supplied by Don Maus, author of History Writ in Steel).

The 1920 and 1921 marked pistols were made for the Weimar Reichswehr, with 8,000 to 10,000 produced. Five-digit serial number pistols were interspersed within these, with S/N between 85473 to 89572. Estimated army and police production of five-digit 1921 marked pistols is 1,100, with most being police procurement (Weimar Lugers, page 13).

I'd be interested in your pistol's serial # as well as any unit markings. The serial number on the gun being discussed in that thread started off as a 4-digit military but had an "8" prefix added to make it appear to be a commercial Luger.

[jad0110]

spacecoast,

Thank you for all the assistance. I'll check out the link sometime over the holiday.

The s/n is 9229a, where the a looks more like an @ symbol.

Here are some photos.


This one is of the right side of the receiver (the side without the safety and take down lever). There are 3 markings, all faint, especially the 3rd one on the far left:








Here is a close up of the two clearer markings (center and right markings above):





And the VERY faint marking on the left (you can see the center marking on the right side of the pic):





Here is the s/n and another set of markings on the underside of the barrel, just forward the upper receiver:

[Kurt2k]

Edit: I apologize for the rifle pictures in the handgun section.













All matching. Sorry, the firing pin picture is a bit hard to see.
My father bought a tear-down home a few years ago and we found this hiding in the rafters.