M&P, P226 mk25, and FNP9.

oneanddone · January 29, 2014, 01:14 AM

Hey all,
I humbly ask for your advice with a decision. I recently found out I have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a Walther P99 before it expires on my states roster

. As a back up I'm between these beauties as contenders for HD, the S&M M&P, Sig P226 mk25, and FNP9. I'm looking first and foremost for reliability (could operate out of the mud) then mechanical accuracy. Is there someone with experience shooting these that could give a relative newbie advice? Thanks guys!

jmr40 · January 29, 2014, 12:52 PM

At one time or another I've owned all but the mk25. Of the 3 I've owned I like the 226 the best. The M&P isn't a bad gun, I just like the similar Glock much better. I really wanted to like the FN. I do like the features, mine just didn't work as well for me as I had hoped.

TunnelRat · January 29, 2014, 01:20 PM

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I'm looking first and foremost for reliability (could operate out of the mud)

What kind of mud are we talking about?

ATW525 · January 29, 2014, 01:25 PM

I'm thinking that if you're worried about how your home defense gun works in mud, it might be time to hire a maid.

Uncle Malice · January 29, 2014, 01:40 PM

Definitely the P226 or M&P. The FNP is a decent gun, but not in the same class.

I own both the MK25 and the M&P 9 Pro... both are awesome, but rather different animals at different price points. It really depends on what you're looking for. I'm not selling either of mine any time soon, that's for sure.

I think I like the MK25 better, but I actually shoot the M&P a little better. This is likely due to more trigger time on the M&P.

mach1.3 · January 29, 2014, 02:16 PM

I have both pistols the P226 mk25 and the M&P9. The real difference here is the Sig is hammer fired with DA/SA decocker mechanism and the M&P is striker fired DAO. Mine both have good triggers but I prefer the Sig in SA. The M&P is lighter in weight due to the polymer frame and does have the palmswell grips to change grip size as standard. The Sig has the options of short trigger and E2 grips for the shooters with smaller hands. The mk25 does have the internals coated in phosphate to make it more corrosion resistant. Both are good pistols---the Sig is >$.

BTW: The 226 has a 4.4" bbl and the full size M&P is 4.25". A small advantage in concealment??

odugrad · January 29, 2014, 06:14 PM

For home defense, you can't beat the MK25. It's extremely reliable, super accurate, and comes with SIG night sights. I love them.

ShaulWolf · January 30, 2014, 02:00 AM

I haven't had too many chances to fire Sigs, but I do like them quite a bit. My friend has used his Sig P226 in USPSA matches and done quite well with it. Awkward shooting positions, hot loads, rapid firing, and less than ideal shooting situations, and it functioned flawlessly. We didn't torture test it, but it was put through its paces pretty well.

My M&P did well, though the striker on it needs to be replaced from wear and tear. It's a first run M&P with a first gen striker, and the newer ones are a lot more durable from all accounts. Mine has been put through the same paces, and I've seen others take some hard abuse and run without issue.

As far as durability and functionality, both do well. The Sig has a DA/SA trigger, which some like and others detest. I rather like it, but I'd suggest trying it out yourself. The M&P acts like a DAO trigger, but it's a striker fired pistol, so it's not exactly a DAO. It has some grit when fresh out of the box, and mine broke right around 6 lbs. Throw in an Apex sear and you can probably get it between 4-5 lbs.

TunnelRat · January 30, 2014, 09:28 AM

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The M&P acts like a DAO trigger, but it's a striker fired pistol, so it's not exactly a DAO. It has some grit when fresh out of the box, and mine broke right around 6 lbs. Throw in an Apex sear and you can probably get it between 4-5 lbs.

As a note, I was at a lgs a few days ago and they had finally gotten in a new shipment of M&Ps. For kicks I tried the trigger on one. It was notably improved from what I remember with mine when new. They already had worked on the break and reset, but there was no grit on this one at all. I didn't take it apart but part of me wonders if they redesigned the striker block.

Mystro · January 30, 2014, 09:32 AM

Get the Sig. You will notice a smoothness and inherent accuracy with it over the others.

SCDeac82 · January 30, 2014, 09:50 AM

For pure reliability, probably the 226.

For a great gun for the dollar: the FNP. (U.S. made also.)

Good luck.

JB

January 29, 2014, 01:14 AM	#1
oneanddone Junior Member Join Date: November 19, 2013 Posts: 2	M&P, P226 mk25, and FNP9. Hey all, I humbly ask for your advice with a decision. I recently found out I have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a Walther P99 before it expires on my states roster. As a back up I'm between these beauties as contenders for HD, the S&M M&P, Sig P226 mk25, and FNP9. I'm looking first and foremost for reliability (could operate out of the mud) then mechanical accuracy. Is there someone with experience shooting these that could give a relative newbie advice? Thanks guys!

January 29, 2014, 01:40 PM	#5
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	Definitely the P226 or M&P. The FNP is a decent gun, but not in the same class. I own both the MK25 and the M&P 9 Pro... both are awesome, but rather different animals at different price points. It really depends on what you're looking for. I'm not selling either of mine any time soon, that's for sure. I think I like the MK25 better, but I actually shoot the M&P a little better. This is likely due to more trigger time on the M&P. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

January 30, 2014, 09:32 AM	#10
Mystro Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Central Pa. Posts: 1,528	Get the Sig. You will notice a smoothness and inherent accuracy with it over the others. __________________ "I'm a good guy with a gun" What do I care if I give up some freedom or rights?....The Goverment will take care of me. This kind of thinking is now in the majority and it should concern you. "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what free entitlements you can bleed from your country"

January 30, 2014, 09:50 AM	#11
SCDeac82 Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2010 Location: Southeast-USA Posts: 222	For pure reliability, probably the 226. For a great gun for the dollar: the FNP. (U.S. made also.) Good luck. JB __________________ "No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

January 29, 2014, 12:52 PM	#2
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,805	At one time or another I've owned all but the mk25. Of the 3 I've owned I like the 226 the best. The M&P isn't a bad gun, I just like the similar Glock much better. I really wanted to like the FN. I do like the features, mine just didn't work as well for me as I had hoped.

January 29, 2014, 01:25 PM	#4
ATW525 Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2005 Location: Concord, NH Posts: 2,723	I'm thinking that if you're worried about how your home defense gun works in mud, it might be time to hire a maid.

January 29, 2014, 02:16 PM	#6
mach1.3 Member Join Date: February 6, 2012 Location: Spring, Texas Posts: 94	I have both pistols the P226 mk25 and the M&P9. The real difference here is the Sig is hammer fired with DA/SA decocker mechanism and the M&P is striker fired DAO. Mine both have good triggers but I prefer the Sig in SA. The M&P is lighter in weight due to the polymer frame and does have the palmswell grips to change grip size as standard. The Sig has the options of short trigger and E2 grips for the shooters with smaller hands. The mk25 does have the internals coated in phosphate to make it more corrosion resistant. Both are good pistols---the Sig is >$. BTW: The 226 has a 4.4" bbl and the full size M&P is 4.25". A small advantage in concealment??

January 29, 2014, 06:14 PM	#7
odugrad Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2013 Location: The East Coast Posts: 477	For home defense, you can't beat the MK25. It's extremely reliable, super accurate, and comes with SIG night sights. I love them.

January 30, 2014, 02:00 AM	#8
ShaulWolf Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2011 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 189	I haven't had too many chances to fire Sigs, but I do like them quite a bit. My friend has used his Sig P226 in USPSA matches and done quite well with it. Awkward shooting positions, hot loads, rapid firing, and less than ideal shooting situations, and it functioned flawlessly. We didn't torture test it, but it was put through its paces pretty well. My M&P did well, though the striker on it needs to be replaced from wear and tear. It's a first run M&P with a first gen striker, and the newer ones are a lot more durable from all accounts. Mine has been put through the same paces, and I've seen others take some hard abuse and run without issue. As far as durability and functionality, both do well. The Sig has a DA/SA trigger, which some like and others detest. I rather like it, but I'd suggest trying it out yourself. The M&P acts like a DAO trigger, but it's a striker fired pistol, so it's not exactly a DAO. It has some grit when fresh out of the box, and mine broke right around 6 lbs. Throw in an Apex sear and you can probably get it between 4-5 lbs.