Near-to-zero maintenance pistol? - Page 2

simonrichter · February 2, 2013, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Why do I sense this might be a troll?

what is a troll, if I might ask out of off-topic curiosity?

Thanks for the other conrtibutions so far!

Pico · February 2, 2013, 07:05 PM

Not a high end gun but a good ole mil spec .45.

Pico

treg · February 2, 2013, 09:49 PM

I'll play, even though I'm a revolver guy at heart.

I would choose Glock based on it's durability, simplicity and extreme popularity. Parts supplies would probably come back first and there are a lot of them out there for donor guns if needed. Switching and swapping would be very easy. I'd customize and accurize as needed to make it the ideal pistol, but keep the stock parts JIC.

tynman · February 2, 2013, 09:56 PM

Im going to have to go with Glock also.... My M27 hasnt failed me yet.

eldermike · February 2, 2013, 10:08 PM

I would choose something without plastic parts. Given enough time with a hack saw, grinder and hammer there is not a single part that can't be replaced. But thinking about plastics, they all are in a constant state of change from good to bad, it's just a matter of time.

I do have two Glocks in my collection and a few others that use plastics.

HKGuns · February 2, 2013, 10:27 PM

For reliability I'd choose one of my HK's, pick one as they're all utterly reliable and solidly built, my P30 shoots very clean as well.

For cleanliness I'd go with the FN Five-seveN as it is (by a wide margin) the cleanest shooting pistol I have ever seen and requires little to no cleaning as far as I can tell. It too has been reliable, but it doesn't have as many rounds through it as my HK's.

Revolvers are a nice choice as well, but they tend to get dirtier and they are complicated pieces of machinery.

Billy the Kidder · February 2, 2013, 10:36 PM

Two G17s.

DMK · February 2, 2013, 10:44 PM

CZ-75 9mm

My first handgun. Still have it. I don't know how many thousands of rounds. Never one problem with it. Old reliable.

Like it so much, recently got one in .40 as well.

yoter · February 3, 2013, 12:11 AM

Beretta 92. I know, I've seen the throw it in the mud video, but mine goes boom every time.

tristar viper · February 3, 2013, 07:00 AM

This is an easy one: GLOCK. My Glock has been the most maintenance free ANYTHING I have ever owned. Period. I'm talking Gen 3 here...I'm not totally sold on the Gen 4 myself.....at least not the Gen 4 G19.

SnowTrekker · February 3, 2013, 08:36 AM

My oldest Glock is a model 17 that is now 20-years-old. It has not given me any trouble, although it may be time to change out the recoil spring.

Your maintenance is going to have a lot to do with your round count. If you shoot a lot, over time something will eventually need to be replaced.

I think other pistols will also be good maintenance-free shooters. The Smith & Wesson M&P series are probably among them, many of the different H&K pistols, polymer framed Walthers, the Sig Sauers, and others.

Dashunde · February 3, 2013, 10:50 AM

Glock... they can all be completely striped with only a wire coat hanger, many of the parts are interchangeable from one model to another and absolutely nothing requires hand-fitting or modifying.
Its remarkable how durable, long lasting and accurate they are considering how they are put together.

Oh... and for around 25 bucks you can gather up spares for most all of the common fail/wear prone parts.

m&p45acp10+1 · February 3, 2013, 10:59 AM

I would go for the old school Jerico 9mm. It has the fewest moving parts. Other than that my P64 in 9mm Mak. few moving parts, and it will get the job done in most cases.

Vermonter · February 3, 2013, 11:08 AM

Glock or smith revolver.

Vermonter · February 3, 2013, 11:16 AM

Why does a fella from Austria even need to ask?

edfrompa · February 3, 2013, 12:00 PM

Springfield 1911 stainless loaded, low maintain, very reliable. Yes it is a 45, 5 inch barrel.

1hogfan83 · February 3, 2013, 04:14 PM

Again, the HK is safer than the GLOCK, no trigger to pull. I have a Glock 22 and I'm not trying to be biased at all. Two M&P's Glock HK 642.

Rainbow Demon · February 3, 2013, 04:36 PM

Browning p-35.
The later model with external extractor and beefed up frame just to be on the safe side.
I'd avoid using NATO STANAG 9mm in any of the more common 9mm pistols regardless of manufacturer.

To be more certain of no suprises I'd use only ammo that has the cannelure below the bullet base to prevent backing in of the bullet.

With reasonable care and proper handling I can't see a P-35 actually wearing out in my lifetime.
Since the pistol is all steel other than the grips it could be restored or rebuilt practically endlessly, even if the frame had to be welded and recut.

The ramp type locking method is more durable than the linkage type of the 1911, though thats mainly theoretical. I have heard of a broken link though.

RBid · February 3, 2013, 04:51 PM

Glock.

There are alternatives that are just as reliable, but factoring in availability of parts and ease of coffee table surgery, it's the safest bet.

This is from a guy who is a self-pronounced Walther guy.

CTS · February 3, 2013, 06:42 PM

I carried a Colt 1911 for years and never had a problem with them.

Lost Sheep · February 3, 2013, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonrichter

what is a troll, if I might ask out of off-topic curiosity?

Thanks for the other conrtibutions so far!

The term "troll" is derived from fishing, where fishing lines with multiple baited hooks will be dragged behind a boat to catch fish.

On the internet, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog. "Troll" may also be the message posted with the intent to disrupt or inflame a forum.

Trolling on a forum is rude.

By the way, I (and apparantly every other respondent to your question) disagree with your accuser.

My first response to your post was Thompson Contender. A single-shot pistol. Pure simplicity in its operation. There are a couple of rolling-block single shot pistols, too, but the T-C has the advantage of a selection of interchangeable barrels in a stunning variety of chamberings. Not much good for combat, but in a survival situation where hunting a variety of game for food is a concern, among handguns, it is a pretty good choice.

My second response was the Browning design of the Colt 1911 which developed the reputation of always firing when called upon, even after abuse. However, there are some spare parts you should keep on hand.

The Glock was designed for ease of maintenance, so those who mentioned it are not off-base either.

Lost Sheep

jason_iowa · February 4, 2013, 01:41 AM

Springfield XD or Smith MP

both are superior to to glock in nearly every way.

Personally though I would go with a revolver. So much more versatile.

armsmaster270 · February 4, 2013, 02:50 AM

Sig 226 or 1911 as I have a full armorers kit on hand (unused except for recoil springs).

rburch · February 4, 2013, 10:23 AM

Glock, S&W M&P, Springfield XD.

Really any quality handgun will serve you fine but those are probably the gold standard. I know people who have put close to 10,000 rounds through them with out bothering to even clean them.

That said whichever you decide to get, stock up some spare parts.

Any gun can fail.

At a minimum I'd have spares for all the springs.

batmann · February 4, 2013, 10:34 AM

For a semi-auto---Has to be a Glock. As to caliber, that may be as important as the weapon itself. I have a Glock 22 (.40) with a supply of ammo and mags, but should the worse happen, I would not hesitate to change it to a 9MM (barrel and mags). The true beauty of a Glock is it's so simple and durable. The composite frame will out last us all.
IF I were limited to a revolver--my Ruger Flattop Blackhawk 50th in .357 would do very nicely as well.

February 2, 2013, 07:05 PM	#27
Pico Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2002 Location: Ga Posts: 515	1911 also Not a high end gun but a good ole mil spec .45. Pico

February 2, 2013, 09:49 PM	#28
treg Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2006 Posts: 1,102	I'll play, even though I'm a revolver guy at heart. I would choose Glock based on it's durability, simplicity and extreme popularity. Parts supplies would probably come back first and there are a lot of them out there for donor guns if needed. Switching and swapping would be very easy. I'd customize and accurize as needed to make it the ideal pistol, but keep the stock parts JIC. __________________ .44 Special: For those who get it, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't, no explanation is possible.

February 2, 2013, 10:27 PM	#31
HKGuns Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2005 Location: Bora Bora Posts: 932	For reliability I'd choose one of my HK's, pick one as they're all utterly reliable and solidly built, my P30 shoots very clean as well. For cleanliness I'd go with the FN Five-seveN as it is (by a wide margin) the cleanest shooting pistol I have ever seen and requires little to no cleaning as far as I can tell. It too has been reliable, but it doesn't have as many rounds through it as my HK's. Revolvers are a nice choice as well, but they tend to get dirtier and they are complicated pieces of machinery. Last edited by HKGuns; February 2, 2013 at 10:35 PM.

February 2, 2013, 10:36 PM	#32
Billy the Kidder Member Join Date: May 21, 2012 Location: Westlake, OH Posts: 82	Two G17s. __________________ Billy ________ Proudly causing more problems than I solve, since 1950.

February 2, 2013, 10:44 PM	#33
DMK Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: Over the hills and far, far away Posts: 3,206	CZ-75 9mm My first handgun. Still have it. I don't know how many thousands of rounds. Never one problem with it. Old reliable. Like it so much, recently got one in .40 as well. __________________ - Homeland Security begins at home: Support your Second Amendment - www.gunowners.org - www.saf.org - act.nraila.org - www.grnc.org

February 2, 2013, 09:56 PM	#29
tynman Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 361	Im going to have to go with Glock also.... My M27 hasnt failed me yet.

February 2, 2013, 10:08 PM	#30
eldermike Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2013 Location: NC Posts: 545	I would choose something without plastic parts. Given enough time with a hack saw, grinder and hammer there is not a single part that can't be replaced. But thinking about plastics, they all are in a constant state of change from good to bad, it's just a matter of time. I do have two Glocks in my collection and a few others that use plastics.

February 3, 2013, 12:11 AM	#34
yoter Member Join Date: September 4, 2011 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 28	Beretta 92. I know, I've seen the throw it in the mud video, but mine goes boom every time.

February 3, 2013, 07:00 AM	#35
tristar viper Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 889	This is an easy one: GLOCK. My Glock has been the most maintenance free ANYTHING I have ever owned. Period. I'm talking Gen 3 here...I'm not totally sold on the Gen 4 myself.....at least not the Gen 4 G19.

February 3, 2013, 08:36 AM	#36
SnowTrekker Member Join Date: September 1, 2012 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 32	My oldest Glock is a model 17 that is now 20-years-old. It has not given me any trouble, although it may be time to change out the recoil spring. Your maintenance is going to have a lot to do with your round count. If you shoot a lot, over time something will eventually need to be replaced. I think other pistols will also be good maintenance-free shooters. The Smith & Wesson M&P series are probably among them, many of the different H&K pistols, polymer framed Walthers, the Sig Sauers, and others.

February 3, 2013, 10:50 AM	#37
Dashunde Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2004 Posts: 2,018	Glock... they can all be completely striped with only a wire coat hanger, many of the parts are interchangeable from one model to another and absolutely nothing requires hand-fitting or modifying. Its remarkable how durable, long lasting and accurate they are considering how they are put together. Oh... and for around 25 bucks you can gather up spares for most all of the common fail/wear prone parts.

February 3, 2013, 10:59 AM	#38
m&p45acp10+1 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,930	I would go for the old school Jerico 9mm. It has the fewest moving parts. Other than that my P64 in 9mm Mak. few moving parts, and it will get the job done in most cases. __________________ No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.

February 3, 2013, 11:08 AM	#39
Vermonter Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2010 Posts: 962	Two choices Glock or smith revolver.

February 3, 2013, 11:16 AM	#40
Vermonter Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2010 Posts: 962	Wait Why does a fella from Austria even need to ask?

February 3, 2013, 12:00 PM	#41
edfrompa Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 1999 Posts: 335	Springfield 1911 stainless loaded, low maintain, very reliable. Yes it is a 45, 5 inch barrel.

February 3, 2013, 04:14 PM	#42
1hogfan83 Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2011 Location: Fayetteville AR Posts: 420	Again, the HK is safer than the GLOCK, no trigger to pull. I have a Glock 22 and I'm not trying to be biased at all. Two M&P's Glock HK 642. __________________ You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe—and shudder. James 2:19 "I do not fear the man that practices ten thousand kicks one time, I fear the man that practices one kick ten thousand times." Bruce Lee

February 3, 2013, 04:36 PM	#43
Rainbow Demon Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2012 Posts: 397	Browning p-35. The later model with external extractor and beefed up frame just to be on the safe side. I'd avoid using NATO STANAG 9mm in any of the more common 9mm pistols regardless of manufacturer. To be more certain of no suprises I'd use only ammo that has the cannelure below the bullet base to prevent backing in of the bullet. With reasonable care and proper handling I can't see a P-35 actually wearing out in my lifetime. Since the pistol is all steel other than the grips it could be restored or rebuilt practically endlessly, even if the frame had to be welded and recut. The ramp type locking method is more durable than the linkage type of the 1911, though thats mainly theoretical. I have heard of a broken link though.

February 3, 2013, 04:51 PM	#44
RBid Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2012 Posts: 1,059	Glock. There are alternatives that are just as reliable, but factoring in availability of parts and ease of coffee table surgery, it's the safest bet. This is from a guy who is a self-pronounced Walther guy. __________________ Currently Own: Beretta PX4 9mm, Glock 23 (Gen 4), Glock 19 (Gen 4) x2

February 3, 2013, 06:42 PM	#45
CTS Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Location: NE Georgia Posts: 1,070	I carried a Colt 1911 for years and never had a problem with them.

February 4, 2013, 01:41 AM	#47
jason_iowa Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 686	Springfield XD or Smith MP both are superior to to glock in nearly every way. Personally though I would go with a revolver. So much more versatile.

February 4, 2013, 02:50 AM	#48
armsmaster270 Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,951	Sig 226 or 1911 as I have a full armorers kit on hand (unused except for recoil springs). __________________ http://www.armsmaster.net-a.googlepages.com http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/f...aster270/Guns/ Retired LE, M.P., Sr. M.P. Investigator F.B.I. Trained Rangemaster/Firearms Instructor & Armorer, Presently Forensic Document Examiner for D.H.S.

February 4, 2013, 10:23 AM	#49
rburch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2007 Location: Blacksburg VA Posts: 750	Glock, S&W M&P, Springfield XD. Really any quality handgun will serve you fine but those are probably the gold standard. I know people who have put close to 10,000 rounds through them with out bothering to even clean them. That said whichever you decide to get, stock up some spare parts. Any gun can fail. At a minimum I'd have spares for all the springs. __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

February 4, 2013, 10:34 AM	#50
batmann Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2004 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 773	For a semi-auto---Has to be a Glock. As to caliber, that may be as important as the weapon itself. I have a Glock 22 (.40) with a supply of ammo and mags, but should the worse happen, I would not hesitate to change it to a 9MM (barrel and mags). The true beauty of a Glock is it's so simple and durable. The composite frame will out last us all. IF I were limited to a revolver--my Ruger Flattop Blackhawk 50th in .357 would do very nicely as well.

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