Online Purchase/ new question

Mawetta · June 23, 2010, 06:07 PM

We previously had a debate over NICS process and such, I've received really good information , thanks.

New question is Can I get the gun, I traded for, shipped and gifted to my father. When the store asks me for shipping info I can gift it, shipping in my fathers name?

Doyle · June 23, 2010, 07:36 PM

The easiest way is for the gun to get shipped to an FFL near your father in his name and let him pass the NICS call.

Mawetta · June 23, 2010, 07:46 PM

So you're saying I can have the gun shipped to him, in his name, when the Online shop asks me to provide shipping info?

I really do want the gun to go to my father, I don't plan on possessing the firearm on my person or in my vehicle. I just want to be able to practice my shooting.

docpadds · June 24, 2010, 12:02 PM

Find and then call a destination FFL near your father and explain it to them. We have handled gifts before, somebody out of state bought it for them in-state and pre-paid us for the transfer etc..... we did the paperwork on the gun and out he went with his gift. Thats for the delivery side.

I cant say we have ever had anyone buy a gun online to be picked up by somebody else, every one of them has had the original persons name on them when shipped out to the destination. That said, if the receiving FFL knows that one is coming in with your name but its for your dad, then so be it.

NavyLT · June 24, 2010, 12:17 PM

I would say the answer to your question is ENTIRELY a matter of an agreement between you and the FFL who is receiving/transferring the gun.

I would imagine some FFLs would be OK transferring a gun to your father if it comes to them in your name, as a gift to him, and some would require the firearm to be shipped to them in his name.

Don P · June 24, 2010, 04:31 PM

I smell the possibility of the FFL thinking straw sale? Maybe its just me. How is FFL to be sure son is not allowed to buy gun being dad is picking it up. Someone in this transaction has to pass the NICS check, no/yes?

docpadds · June 24, 2010, 04:53 PM

Yes if they both turned up at the same time, but if its a son elsewhere buying for a father in town then thats less likely.

NavyLT · June 24, 2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by docpadds

Yes if they both turned up at the same time, but if its a son elsewhere buying for a father in town then thats less likely.

Why? I bought my ex-wife several handguns that way. I took her to the gun store, she picked out what she wanted. I gave the FFL the money, did the 4473, passed the NICS check, handed her the gun right there on the spot as a gift. With us being military, I could buy them on my orders and active duty ID card, but she could not (from the FFL) because she had an out of state driver's license. But, since she lived in the same house as me, she was a resident of the same state and not otherwise prohibited from possessing firearms.

Then the $%*&# sold the same guns for 1/2 their worth before the divorce even went to court.

docpadds · June 24, 2010, 05:18 PM

He said the "possibility" of a straw sale and that is a far more likely scenario when some guy comes in and buys a gun for some other guy, we dont know who they are and when one selects and the other pays/does paperwork then is suspicious. Now if we know or can be shown its otherwise fine, but if we dont know them and who they are then we are perfectly at liberty to refuse the sale.

Interstate is far less likely to be that, not as though somebody in another state paying for a gun for somebody in this state is doing much else then gifting, hardly a convenient straw sale and they are generally very open about what they are doing etc.

Mawetta · June 24, 2010, 05:46 PM

We'll see what happens, I'n waiting for my Traded rifle to be inspected which should be by Monday, Then i will see if the guy will ship the Handgun , to the ffl, in my dads name. So we all will know by the end of next week.

Darren007 · June 24, 2010, 05:49 PM

Here's an idea. Why don't you just call the FFL you're planning on having the firearm shipped to and ask?

NavyLT · June 24, 2010, 05:54 PM

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Here's an idea. Why don't you just call the FFL you're planning on having the firearm shipped to and ask?

That's what I would do.

Mawetta · June 24, 2010, 06:02 PM

The guy who runs it is a tight-wad. Well the gun owner reminds me of my old Chief. I seriously think he might be related to the Chief i knew. I am actually scared of this guy even though i am not in military. LT, some chiefs just scare the sht out of me. lol!

I don't want to make him suspicious. He already kicked me out of his shop once, although he is the one who mailed my rifle. I just want to have no part in this transaction, I want the shop i am buying from to ship the gun in my dads name and have nothing to do with picking it up at the FFL.

Mawetta · June 28, 2010, 01:53 AM

Everyone wish me luck tomorrow in passing my 4473 and NICS check. Beretta!

I was delayed .

June 23, 2010, 06:07 PM	#1
Mawetta Junior member Join Date: June 16, 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 90	Online Purchase/ new question We previously had a debate over NICS process and such, I've received really good information , thanks. New question is Can I get the gun, I traded for, shipped and gifted to my father. When the store asks me for shipping info I can gift it, shipping in my fathers name?

June 24, 2010, 12:02 PM	#4
docpadds Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2009 Posts: 125	Find and then call a destination FFL near your father and explain it to them. We have handled gifts before, somebody out of state bought it for them in-state and pre-paid us for the transfer etc..... we did the paperwork on the gun and out he went with his gift. Thats for the delivery side. I cant say we have ever had anyone buy a gun online to be picked up by somebody else, every one of them has had the original persons name on them when shipped out to the destination. That said, if the receiving FFL knows that one is coming in with your name but its for your dad, then so be it. __________________ 07 Manufacturer and 02 SOT and 08 Importer. NRA Certified Instructor Pistol/Rifle. NRA RSO. Owner of GunEnvy. See our Facebook page for more.

June 24, 2010, 04:31 PM	#6
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	I smell the possibility of the FFL thinking straw sale? Maybe its just me. How is FFL to be sure son is not allowed to buy gun being dad is picking it up. Someone in this transaction has to pass the NICS check, no/yes? __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

June 24, 2010, 04:53 PM	#7
docpadds Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2009 Posts: 125	Yes if they both turned up at the same time, but if its a son elsewhere buying for a father in town then thats less likely. __________________ 07 Manufacturer and 02 SOT and 08 Importer. NRA Certified Instructor Pistol/Rifle. NRA RSO. Owner of GunEnvy. See our Facebook page for more.

June 24, 2010, 05:18 PM	#9
docpadds Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2009 Posts: 125	He said the "possibility" of a straw sale and that is a far more likely scenario when some guy comes in and buys a gun for some other guy, we dont know who they are and when one selects and the other pays/does paperwork then is suspicious. Now if we know or can be shown its otherwise fine, but if we dont know them and who they are then we are perfectly at liberty to refuse the sale. Interstate is far less likely to be that, not as though somebody in another state paying for a gun for somebody in this state is doing much else then gifting, hardly a convenient straw sale and they are generally very open about what they are doing etc. __________________ 07 Manufacturer and 02 SOT and 08 Importer. NRA Certified Instructor Pistol/Rifle. NRA RSO. Owner of GunEnvy. See our Facebook page for more.

June 23, 2010, 07:36 PM	#2
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	The easiest way is for the gun to get shipped to an FFL near your father in his name and let him pass the NICS call.

June 23, 2010, 07:46 PM	#3
Mawetta Junior member Join Date: June 16, 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 90	So you're saying I can have the gun shipped to him, in his name, when the Online shop asks me to provide shipping info? I really do want the gun to go to my father, I don't plan on possessing the firearm on my person or in my vehicle. I just want to be able to practice my shooting.

June 24, 2010, 12:17 PM	#5
NavyLT Junior member Join Date: January 25, 2006 Location: Oak Harbor, WA Posts: 1,719	I would say the answer to your question is ENTIRELY a matter of an agreement between you and the FFL who is receiving/transferring the gun. I would imagine some FFLs would be OK transferring a gun to your father if it comes to them in your name, as a gift to him, and some would require the firearm to be shipped to them in his name.

June 24, 2010, 05:46 PM	#10
Mawetta Junior member Join Date: June 16, 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 90	We'll see what happens, I'n waiting for my Traded rifle to be inspected which should be by Monday, Then i will see if the guy will ship the Handgun , to the ffl, in my dads name. So we all will know by the end of next week.

June 24, 2010, 05:49 PM	#11
Darren007 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,053	Here's an idea. Why don't you just call the FFL you're planning on having the firearm shipped to and ask?

June 24, 2010, 06:02 PM	#13
Mawetta Junior member Join Date: June 16, 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 90	The guy who runs it is a tight-wad. Well the gun owner reminds me of my old Chief. I seriously think he might be related to the Chief i knew. I am actually scared of this guy even though i am not in military. LT, some chiefs just scare the sht out of me. lol! I don't want to make him suspicious. He already kicked me out of his shop once, although he is the one who mailed my rifle. I just want to have no part in this transaction, I want the shop i am buying from to ship the gun in my dads name and have nothing to do with picking it up at the FFL.

June 28, 2010, 01:53 AM	#14
Mawetta Junior member Join Date: June 16, 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 90	Everyone wish me luck tomorrow in passing my 4473 and NICS check. Beretta! I was delayed . Last edited by Mawetta; June 28, 2010 at 01:16 PM.