Silencers for Rifles: Who Makes the Best?

Anthony · September 1, 2006, 05:34 PM

Hello Everyone,

I'm in the marketing for a silencer for a custom AR-10 and a couple of other rifles chambered for .308 Winchester.

Who makes the best silencers for rifles on the market?

Thanks for the help.

- Anthony

VUPDblue · September 1, 2006, 06:40 PM

For quality suppressors, you have a variety of solid, quality-driven companies to choose from.
Gemtech
Advanced Armament
SWR
AWC

You should surf on over to silencertests.com and check out their comparisons of different cans.

raymond- · September 1, 2006, 08:55 PM

there is no simplistic answer to this. any recognizable manuf is a contender and
you'll need to consider size, weight, attenuation, etc. but also, bear in mind
that using a semi-auto as the platform isn't the best choice...too many clickety
clacking and whooshing going on. but as long as you accept the drawbacks
then i guess you'll be happy with less than full rifle bark. you may also want to
head over to Uzitalk and Silencertest (both, dot com) to see and ask others who
may have outfitted similarly.

Anthony · September 5, 2006, 10:30 AM

Thank you for the links...I would still like to hear from anyone who has any personal experience with a specific brand or company.

- Anthony

MGRacer · September 5, 2006, 02:45 PM

I have an AAC Cyclone screw mount that I use on my Savage 110FP
http://www.advanced-armament.com/pro...es/cyclone.asp
It is effective, tightened the groups, and has been trouble free.

tBlake08 · September 5, 2006, 03:34 PM

Man, I wish I could afford one.

Esquire M Busterbury · September 5, 2006, 03:41 PM

Mgracer, other than having dreams about stalking 'that guy' who cut you off in traffic, what do you actually do with it? Very nice.

tBlake08 · September 5, 2006, 03:52 PM

I take it the $795 price tag doesn't include the tax, correct?

MGRacer · September 5, 2006, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Mgracer, other than having dreams about stalking 'that guy' who cut you off in traffic, what do you actually do with it? Very nice.
__________________
I've got the internet running intravenously...

I find that shooting with a suppressor is much more neighborly for myself and those who are shooting around me. It eliminates the muzzle blast and significantly reduces the recoil (not that recoil is an issue with the Savage with the heavy stock) An added benefit on this already accurate gun is that the suppressor tightened the groups. Oh -- I really don't have those kind of dreams -- life is too short to waste it on worrying about getting cut off.

Quote:

I take it the $795 price tag doesn't include the tax, correct?

That would be correct. However, I would talk with your dealer to see what price he will quote you since the $795 is retail and he may either add fees or give you a small break.

tBlake08 · September 5, 2006, 05:21 PM

I'm not looking at that specific one, actually, I'm looking for an affordable .22 supressor, but that $200 tax is killing me!

VUPDblue · September 5, 2006, 05:42 PM

You can get into a Tactical Innovations TAC65 .22lr suppressor for as little as $170 plus the $200 stamp. Less than $400 for a .22 can is pretty sweet. They are not too bad of a can either. Very quiet and easy to maintain.

tBlake08 · September 5, 2006, 06:02 PM

The tactical innovations inc website had a much higher price, but they also sold novelty condoms, so could you link me to a better source?

VUPDblue · September 5, 2006, 06:56 PM

Sorry about the condom thing. I didn't know that they peddled that kind of item on their site. Anyway, a dealer in Indiana stocks them and lists them on Gunbroker at VERY low prices. I have spoken to the dealer several times and he seems like a pretty good guy to deal with. I don't think he has any listed now, but if you like, I can try to dig up his email address for you.

nick

tBlake08 · September 6, 2006, 11:07 PM

Oh, I didn't take it offensivly, but you do have to admit...It's hard to take a silencer mfg. seriously when they sell novelty condoms on their site.

Esquire M Busterbury · September 6, 2006, 11:11 PM

What, you wouldn't buy condoms if they had them at your gunstore?...They could put a lil sign on the fishbowl that reads:

Make up for all the guns you bought.

2 fer a dollar.

tBlake08 · September 6, 2006, 11:15 PM

Good point, but a gun store is generalized, they have masses of accessories and non-gun related things. You'd think a class II mfg. could make enough and money and use up their extra time in many ways better than selling cheap condoms that would make most men shiver at the thought of actual use.

elliott · September 11, 2006, 01:58 AM

I shot the Cyclone the other day, now I have one on order for my 308 bolt gun. I am also looking at getting one for my 223 bolt gun, I just picked up a GAP 223 wearing an A5.

Byron Quick · September 11, 2006, 05:40 AM

I've got the Gem-tech Piranha for .223. On the AR-15, it takes the sound down to about the level of a firecracker. Most of that is sonic crack. On the Contender it's about the same to the ear.

Most subsonic ammunition voids the warranty as Gemtech states that most will subsonic .223 ammo will not stabilize-resulting in damage to the suppressor. There is a company they recommend but it slips my mind at present.

With the .22 upper, it really lets you in on the ammo's quality control. One shot will be about as loud as one of those poppers you throw on the pavement. The next shot will be softer than an air rifle with the mechanism being the loudest sound.

Rem700SD · September 16, 2006, 05:21 AM

Be aware that in suppressing a "gas gun" like the AR you'll wind up having to clean it at least twice as often. The increased back pressure causes more gunk to be blown into the chamber. I've been considering purchasing a .308 semi-auto for suppression but haven't found a platform I'm happy with.

I own a Gem-tech can and one by Tac-ord(since out of business I think). I'm happy with them. Also be aware of carbon fowling when shopping for any quick release adapters. My GemTech Bi-Lok is now semi-permanently affixed to the mount due to this. There's also some blowback thru the seams in the quick detach area. Always wear eye protection.

FS2K · September 16, 2006, 09:18 AM

Byron,

I didn't even know Subsonic .223 even existed! Are there alot of manefacturers? And what bullet wieght are there?

birgrunar · November 21, 2007, 05:12 AM

Hello members .

YOU yourself can make the best silencer Custom made !
I offer Silencer eBook you can download from my website.
Click Here !

I also provide Varmint videos and Bench Rest Videos Click Here !

Sincerely

birgrunar

oldbillthundercheif · November 21, 2007, 06:19 AM

Yowza!

That .1 MOA group is something else, birgrunar.

Welcome to TFL.

VUPDblue · November 21, 2007, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birgrunar's website

Utilization is only allowed in Countries where the use of silencers is legal.
Warning! USE only for target and hunting purposes.

The use of silencers is legal in this country, but you must file a Form1 with ATF and pay your $200 tax before you start making even one component of said silencer.

Many states have laws specifically outlawing NFA items, including silencers, for hunting.

I don't know what the person's intent was in posting that link, but it kinda reminds me of those "Anarchist's Cookbook" type books...

birgrunar · November 23, 2007, 09:09 AM

Hello members !

In many countries silencers are illegal !
What I write on my website is a warning ,re silencers.

All the best

birgirunar

My website

Crosshair · November 23, 2007, 01:19 PM

Tactical Innovations is a good manufacturer. They make allot of useful products. As for the condoms, well nothing wrong with diversifying.

I own both a TAC-16 and an older TAC-62.

Here is the TAC-16

September 1, 2006, 05:34 PM	#1
Anthony Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 1998 Location: Dallas, Texas (United States) Posts: 416	Silencers for Rifles: Who Makes the Best? Hello Everyone, I'm in the marketing for a silencer for a custom AR-10 and a couple of other rifles chambered for .308 Winchester. Who makes the best silencers for rifles on the market? Thanks for the help. - Anthony

September 1, 2006, 06:40 PM	#2
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	For quality suppressors, you have a variety of solid, quality-driven companies to choose from. Gemtech Advanced Armament SWR AWC You should surf on over to silencertests.com and check out their comparisons of different cans. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

September 1, 2006, 08:55 PM	#3
raymond- Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 179	there is no simplistic answer to this. any recognizable manuf is a contender and you'll need to consider size, weight, attenuation, etc. but also, bear in mind that using a semi-auto as the platform isn't the best choice...too many clickety clacking and whooshing going on. but as long as you accept the drawbacks then i guess you'll be happy with less than full rifle bark. you may also want to head over to Uzitalk and Silencertest (both, dot com) to see and ask others who may have outfitted similarly. __________________ raymond- 47.5N 122.2W

September 5, 2006, 02:45 PM	#5
MGRacer Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2005 Posts: 130	I have an AAC Cyclone screw mount that I use on my Savage 110FP http://www.advanced-armament.com/pro...es/cyclone.asp It is effective, tightened the groups, and has been trouble free. __________________ "A man's gotta do what he thinks is best."

September 5, 2006, 03:34 PM	#6
tBlake08 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2006 Location: West/Middle TN Posts: 178	Man, I wish I could afford one. __________________ I've got a firm policy on gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be the one controlling it. -Clint Eastwood

September 5, 2006, 10:30 AM	#4
Anthony Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 1998 Location: Dallas, Texas (United States) Posts: 416	Thank you for the links...I would still like to hear from anyone who has any personal experience with a specific brand or company. - Anthony

September 5, 2006, 03:41 PM	#7
Esquire M Busterbury Junior member Join Date: July 29, 2006 Posts: 445	Mgracer, other than having dreams about stalking 'that guy' who cut you off in traffic, what do you actually do with it? Very nice.

September 5, 2006, 03:52 PM	#8
tBlake08 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2006 Location: West/Middle TN Posts: 178	I take it the $795 price tag doesn't include the tax, correct? __________________ I've got a firm policy on gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be the one controlling it. -Clint Eastwood

September 5, 2006, 05:21 PM	#10
tBlake08 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2006 Location: West/Middle TN Posts: 178	I'm not looking at that specific one, actually, I'm looking for an affordable .22 supressor, but that $200 tax is killing me! __________________ I've got a firm policy on gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be the one controlling it. -Clint Eastwood

September 5, 2006, 05:42 PM	#11
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	You can get into a Tactical Innovations TAC65 .22lr suppressor for as little as $170 plus the $200 stamp. Less than $400 for a .22 can is pretty sweet. They are not too bad of a can either. Very quiet and easy to maintain. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

September 5, 2006, 06:02 PM	#12
tBlake08 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2006 Location: West/Middle TN Posts: 178	The tactical innovations inc website had a much higher price, but they also sold novelty condoms, so could you link me to a better source? __________________ I've got a firm policy on gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be the one controlling it. -Clint Eastwood

September 5, 2006, 06:56 PM	#13
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	Sorry about the condom thing. I didn't know that they peddled that kind of item on their site. Anyway, a dealer in Indiana stocks them and lists them on Gunbroker at VERY low prices. I have spoken to the dealer several times and he seems like a pretty good guy to deal with. I don't think he has any listed now, but if you like, I can try to dig up his email address for you. nick __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

September 6, 2006, 11:07 PM	#14
tBlake08 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2006 Location: West/Middle TN Posts: 178	Oh, I didn't take it offensivly, but you do have to admit...It's hard to take a silencer mfg. seriously when they sell novelty condoms on their site. __________________ I've got a firm policy on gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be the one controlling it. -Clint Eastwood

September 6, 2006, 11:11 PM	#15
Esquire M Busterbury Junior member Join Date: July 29, 2006 Posts: 445	What, you wouldn't buy condoms if they had them at your gunstore?...They could put a lil sign on the fishbowl that reads: Make up for all the guns you bought. 2 fer a dollar.

September 6, 2006, 11:15 PM	#16
tBlake08 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2006 Location: West/Middle TN Posts: 178	Good point, but a gun store is generalized, they have masses of accessories and non-gun related things. You'd think a class II mfg. could make enough and money and use up their extra time in many ways better than selling cheap condoms that would make most men shiver at the thought of actual use. __________________ I've got a firm policy on gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be the one controlling it. -Clint Eastwood

September 11, 2006, 01:58 AM	#17
elliott Member Join Date: November 29, 2001 Location: Wyoming Posts: 58	I shot the Cyclone the other day, now I have one on order for my 308 bolt gun. I am also looking at getting one for my 223 bolt gun, I just picked up a GAP 223 wearing an A5.

September 11, 2006, 05:40 AM	#18
Byron Quick Staff In Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Waynesboro, Georgia, USA Posts: 2,361	I've got the Gem-tech Piranha for .223. On the AR-15, it takes the sound down to about the level of a firecracker. Most of that is sonic crack. On the Contender it's about the same to the ear. Most subsonic ammunition voids the warranty as Gemtech states that most will subsonic .223 ammo will not stabilize-resulting in damage to the suppressor. There is a company they recommend but it slips my mind at present. With the .22 upper, it really lets you in on the ammo's quality control. One shot will be about as loud as one of those poppers you throw on the pavement. The next shot will be softer than an air rifle with the mechanism being the loudest sound.

September 16, 2006, 05:21 AM	#19
Rem700SD Junior Member Join Date: January 4, 2006 Location: South of Houston, TX Posts: 8	Be aware that in suppressing a "gas gun" like the AR you'll wind up having to clean it at least twice as often. The increased back pressure causes more gunk to be blown into the chamber. I've been considering purchasing a .308 semi-auto for suppression but haven't found a platform I'm happy with. I own a Gem-tech can and one by Tac-ord(since out of business I think). I'm happy with them. Also be aware of carbon fowling when shopping for any quick release adapters. My GemTech Bi-Lok is now semi-permanently affixed to the mount due to this. There's also some blowback thru the seams in the quick detach area. Always wear eye protection.

September 16, 2006, 09:18 AM	#20
FS2K Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2006 Posts: 1,853	Subsonic .223 Rem. Byron, I didn't even know Subsonic .223 even existed! Are there alot of manefacturers? And what bullet wieght are there? __________________ Just a big fan of guns.

November 21, 2007, 05:12 AM	#21
birgrunar Junior Member Join Date: November 21, 2007 Posts: 3	YOU Make the Best ! Hello members . YOU yourself can make the best silencer Custom made ! I offer Silencer eBook you can download from my website. Click Here ! I also provide Varmint videos and Bench Rest Videos Click Here ! Sincerely birgrunar

November 21, 2007, 06:19 AM	#22
oldbillthundercheif Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 2,450	Yowza! That .1 MOA group is something else, birgrunar. Welcome to TFL.

November 23, 2007, 09:09 AM	#24
birgrunar Junior Member Join Date: November 21, 2007 Posts: 3	Re Legality of silencers ! Hello members ! In many countries silencers are illegal ! What I write on my website is a warning ,re silencers. All the best birgirunar My website

November 23, 2007, 01:19 PM	#25
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,333	Tactical Innovations is a good manufacturer. They make allot of useful products. As for the condoms, well nothing wrong with diversifying. I own both a TAC-16 and an older TAC-62. Here is the TAC-16 __________________ I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.