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March 10, 2012, 08:36 PM | #1 |
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Is the model 18 Combat Masterpeice as accurate as the 617?
I'm looking at the 4" barrel length
Are these guns basically the same performance wise? |
March 10, 2012, 08:47 PM | #2 |
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Exact same gun, just a shorter barrel.
Well, and the 18 is blue and the 617 stainless. And the later 617's are 10 shots. Jim |
March 10, 2012, 08:56 PM | #3 |
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Whoever wrote the Wikipedia article for the 617 basically says it's capable of shooting 1.5" groups at 50 yards.
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March 10, 2012, 09:02 PM | #4 |
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With the right ammo and shooter, no doubt some are.
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I believe there equal. The 617 is the newer version and the model 18 is the classic pinned and recessed old school revolver. You have the advantage of 10 rounds with the 617. I believe accurately is equal. Too me these two along with the model 17 are the best out there. I know the Colt fans will disagree but I like S&W revolvers.
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March 11, 2012, 10:33 AM | #6 |
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I have the 10 shot 4" 617, the 18-3 and the 17-3. All are great guns. All are accurate as heck. I went new school on the 617 and put a Burris heads up red dot on it. Older eyes, I shoot the red dot more. Longer sight picture on the 17 and the partridge sight makes it easier for me to shoot than the 18.
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Why wouldn't it be as accurate? It's going to vary more from gun-to-gun than by each specific model. And each individual revolver will have an ammunition preference as well.
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My Model 18 is a -4, early '80s production. Non-pinned barrel, but it's recessed and shoots great.
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March 11, 2012, 11:55 AM | #9 |
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Actually the question is.... could you be as accurate with either gun. Both are capable of accuracy far beyond the capability of most people.
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March 11, 2012, 12:10 PM | #10 | |
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March 11, 2012, 01:44 PM | #12 |
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A good sixgun will do 2" at 50yds. I have a few that will. Many that won't. You really need to spend more money if you want one to do better. FA's will usually do 1".
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March 11, 2012, 03:52 PM | #14 |
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It was thought that rimfire cartridges needed the extra support. Whether it was or not, it is no longer necessary and I'm surprised that S&W has not taken this cost-cutting measure. For example, USFA's very premium quality 12/22 does not have recessed chambers.
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March 11, 2012, 04:22 PM | #15 |
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I was assuming the accuracy claim was from a Ransom rest or something - but there wasn't documentation on it.
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March 11, 2012, 07:12 PM | #16 |
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Blued guns are always more accurate than stainless ones. I thought everybody knew that.
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March 11, 2012, 07:54 PM | #17 |
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Yeah Cajun, you don't have to wet your front sights to cut the glare down (Sgt. York style).
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The little rimfire case heads are the same today as they always have been,they have to be, or they won't work in many guns. Recessed rims were a selling point, a little extra quality S&W put in their guns. Useful on the .22, as extra protection in case of a rim failure, and a "custom" touch on their magnums. Standard calibers (like .38spl) did not get the recessed rim treatment. It was never really "needed" for safety or anything, just a nice touch that gave the guns a bit of extra class that their competitors didn't have.
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March 12, 2012, 11:52 AM | #19 |
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Back to the Op's question. The main difference (besides blued vs. stainless) of the 617 and the 18 is that the 617 has a full lugged barrel. With a .22lr that full lug doesn't do anything for recoil but you may or may not like the balance better. I have a 4" 17-6 (blued full lug) and a couple 18's. The accuracy on all the guns is comparable, buy the version you like best and spend some time trying different ammo to see which your gun likes best.
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