The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Handguns: The Revolver Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old January 6, 2017, 10:56 AM   #126
themalicious0ne
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 13, 2012
Location: Oconomowoc, WI
Posts: 300
I will be very interested if the trigger is as good as we all hopeople it will be. I would love a 7lb da trigger pull with no work done.
themalicious0ne is offline  
Old January 6, 2017, 10:38 PM   #127
Technosavant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 29, 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO area
Posts: 4,028
Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Sneaky Steve
Besides not having a bobbed hammer, the only reason to carry an all steel gun is to take the bite out of .357 Magnum.
Yeah, but it also takes all the pain and suffering out of shooting .38spl. I have a 2" S&W 64, and it is astonishingly easy to shoot (recoil-wise) compared to my S&W 642.

I'm not sure I have a driving need for this Cobra, but if I saw one, I might well be interested if it was going for under $600 street, if for no other reason than to be along with the renaissance of Colt's DA game. I wouldn't plan to carry it, but it could happen.

The gun intrigues me. I am interested in seeing one in the steel.
Technosavant is offline  
Old January 6, 2017, 11:29 PM   #128
OldMarksman
Staff
 
Join Date: June 8, 2008
Posts: 2,937
Quote:
Quote:
Besides not having a bobbed hammer, the only reason to carry an all steel gun is to take the bite out of .357 Magnum.
Yeah, but it also takes all the pain and suffering out of shooting .38spl. I have a 2" S&W 64, and it is astonishingly easy to shoot (recoil-wise) compared to my S&W 642.
Pain and suffering are not the only issues, although repetitive trauma can lead to permanent nerve, tendon, ad joint damage. The other issue is rapidity of controlled shooting.

Personally, I see no reason to use .357 magnum ammunition for self defense.

Bobbed hammer? That's an easy fix. I had it done to a Ruger SP 101
OldMarksman is offline  
Old January 7, 2017, 12:56 AM   #129
Model12Win
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 20, 2012
Posts: 3,640
.357 Magnum defenders make sense with a 4" or longer bbl.

For a snub? Forget about it. Too much recoil, blast n' flash. Loud. Stupid. A good .38 +P will do the job IF you can do the job.
Model12Win is offline  
Old January 7, 2017, 11:44 AM   #130
dgludwig
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 12, 2005
Location: North central Ohio
Posts: 5,917
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Sneaky Steve
Besides not having a bobbed hammer, the only reason to carry an all steel gun is to take the bite out of .357 Magnum.
Quote:
Yeah, but it also takes all the pain and suffering out of shooting .38spl. I have a 2" S&W 64, and it is astonishingly easy to shoot (recoil-wise) compared to my S&W 642.
As I see it, the only reason to have any handgun made out of a light-weight alloy is for ease of carry, especially while being carried concealed. Reason enough for me to accept a little "pain and suffering" (though I'm not especially sensitive to recoil, even +P .38 Special ammunition gets a little tiresome after a box full has been fired through a Smith J-frame Airweight).
__________________
ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED
...Aristotle
NRA Benefactor Life Member
dgludwig is offline  
Old January 7, 2017, 08:23 PM   #131
Technosavant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 29, 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO area
Posts: 4,028
Quote:
Originally Posted by dgludwig
As I see it, the only reason to have any handgun made out of a light-weight alloy is for ease of carry, especially while being carried concealed.
Depends on mode of carry. Pocket, yeah. That weight may matter a lot. Belt, not so much. It's always a personal choice for the user. I can understand those who want it as light as possible. I can also understand those who appreciate a little more weight so it's more comfortable to practice.
Technosavant is offline  
Old January 7, 2017, 09:10 PM   #132
shootbrownelk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 27, 2013
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 168
I have a Colt DiamondBack and a S&W K-22 Masterpiece and the Colt has a much, much better trigger than the S&W does. I asked around at the LGS's today and as of yet, nobody has seen one of the new Cobras. The guy behind the counter said that they ordered some, but have no idea on a delivery time, and that whatever they do get in is already spoken for. Local collectors I'm pretty sure.
shootbrownelk is offline  
Old January 7, 2017, 09:58 PM   #133
Stephanie B
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 1, 2008
Location: NWern SE Missouri
Posts: 318
Quote:
I'm not especially sensitive to recoil, even +P .38 Special ammunition gets a little tiresome after a box full has been fired through a Smith J-frame Airweight
YMMV. I can't go past 15 standard pressure loads in my Airweight before it gets too painful to continue on. I made up some mouse-phart loads with Trail Boss for practice.
Stephanie B is offline  
Old January 11, 2017, 10:45 AM   #134
Wheelie_Fan
Member
 
Join Date: November 27, 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 90
Does anyone know when the new Colt Cobra's will begin shipping? haven't seen many comments or updates since the initial flurry....

just curious...
Wheelie_Fan is offline  
Old January 11, 2017, 10:57 AM   #135
BearBrimstone
Member
 
Join Date: January 5, 2017
Posts: 47
I want one. I would probably pay double the price of a J-frame to get one. If its more than that I just don't think I could justify the price though.
BearBrimstone is offline  
Old January 12, 2017, 08:57 AM   #136
Model12Win
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 20, 2012
Posts: 3,640
Whenever we do finally see new Colt Cobras, we'll have to fight "The Kuhlekterz" to get the first couple batches. Those guns are destined for a life of being safe queens.
Model12Win is offline  
Old January 14, 2017, 07:00 AM   #137
hot sauce
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 21, 2006
Posts: 510
Colt should be making a 357 magnum.
hot sauce is offline  
Old January 14, 2017, 03:19 PM   #138
mk70ss
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 12, 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 671
All steel gun equals nice brass knuckles if the sh$t really hits the fan.
__________________
Say when.....
mk70ss is offline  
Old January 15, 2017, 09:08 AM   #139
Stephanie B
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 1, 2008
Location: NWern SE Missouri
Posts: 318
Quote:
Whenever we do finally see new Colt Cobras, we'll have to fight "The Kuhlekterz" to get the first couple batches. Those guns are destined for a life of being safe queens.
Unless a Colt Cobra is the gun of some TV hero down the road, I don't see them having significant collector's value until well into the second half of the century. Even if they aren't on the market for long. NIB Colt A-A 2000s aren't going for any significant money.
Stephanie B is offline  
Old January 15, 2017, 11:32 AM   #140
shootbrownelk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 27, 2013
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 168
If Colt stops building them, they WILL become collector's items. I also checked the spec sheet on the new Cobra. It weighs 25 oz. unloaded, or quite a bit more than a J-frame. I think I'll stick with S&W. I'm also betting that the price paid for the Cobras initially, will be over the MSRP or $700+.
shootbrownelk is offline  
Old Yesterday, 04:51 PM   #141
Radny97
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 8, 2015
Posts: 598
So I was able to attend SHOT show today and handle the new Colt Cobra. Very impressed. Trigger was about 8 pounds and pure silk. Single action was perfect. Like a performance center revolver. No creep or anything. Finish is very nice and I love the size of the trigger guard and the sights.
Downside is they only had one on display, which tells me they are likely still a ways a way from full production. I hope the models coming off the line have as nice of a trigger.
Here's a pic
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0039.JPG (100.7 KB, 28 views)
Radny97 is offline  
Old Today, 07:59 AM   #142
SansSouci
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 13, 2013
Location: Heart of Reagan Country
Posts: 434
I'm not surprised. On July 1, 2017, ALL standard capacity mags in CA will become illegal to possess regardless of how long one might have owed them. Only mags holding 10 rounds or less will be legal. I believe NY has a similar law.

Last edited by SansSouci; Today at 08:08 AM.
SansSouci is offline  
Old Today, 08:07 AM   #143
SansSouci
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 13, 2013
Location: Heart of Reagan Country
Posts: 434
I had no clue that Colt has reintroduced the Cobra: http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Revolvers/Cobra

I've just checked it out. If they're available for sale in CA, I'll buy one.
SansSouci is offline  
Old Today, 09:09 AM   #144
Wheelie_Fan
Member
 
Join Date: November 27, 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 90
I believe that they are now able to be ordered by distributors and dealers.... according to what i read yesterday. Can't wait to see one myself and hope they are as nice as Radny97 indicated.

I've never fired a Python or any of the other Colt revolvers for that matter, so my comparison will be to Smith's, Rugers and such.... Can't wait to fondle one.
Wheelie_Fan is offline  
Old Today, 10:38 AM   #145
SansSouci
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 13, 2013
Location: Heart of Reagan Country
Posts: 434
Good Morning, Wheelie_Fan,

I darn near hate to admit this: I live in CA. Every handgun offered for sale has to be approved by CA DOJ, which means it might be months after the Cobra is offered for sale that it might be offered for sale in the most gun hostile state in the country.

For bipedal self-defense, I'm all about semi-autos. However, I do love revolvers. A good-quality 2" .38 Special that's +P rated has a lot of utility. Even in urban So Cal, a hiker in local So Cal mountains would put him in danger of mountain lion attack. Loaded with shot capsules, it's a darn good rattler gun, and we have rattlesnakes all over So Cal.

I was never much of a .357 Mag believer. In fact, when I've carried a .357 Mag for bipedal self-defense, it was always loaded with the FBI load, which is 158 grain LSWC or LSWCHP +P. Even out of a Model 60, the FBI load is not fun to shoot. I couldn't imagine shooting a .357 Mag round our of a "J" Frame.

If terms of efficacy, one isn't going to get appreciable results using a .357 Mag round out of a 2" barreled handgun. The impressive if not fabricated ballistics of the .357 Mag round were obtained (if they really were obtained) out of 8.375" barrels. Out of a 4" barreled 586 that I once owned, the best I could get was ~1250 FPS with 158 grain .357 Mag loads.

The .357 Mag has a lot of negatives to be a good self-defense gun. Foremost, it's a revolver that holds 6 rounds and takes too much time to reload. A .357 Mag revolver has to be heavy to manage its recoil. Managing recoil is essential to retaining sight picture. Shoot a .357 Mag round in an enclosed area such as a bedroom, and the excessively loud report will leave you disoriented. That's never a good thing were a bad guy to want a good guy at room temperature. Finally, muzzle flash, especially out of a 4" barreled .357 Mag revolver, will blind space station astronauts, which means it will cause its user to lose sight picture, which is a bad thing were a bad guy shooting at a good guy. Oh yeah, I've been exposed to personal accounts where the .357 Mag failed to live up to its manstopper billing. (There is no such thing as a manstopper tactical handgun.)

The FBI load out of a 2" barreled revolver ought to give 12" of penetration, which is the industry standard. Hence, it ought to perform as good as a .357 Mag when fired from a 2" barreled gun.

I do love good quality revolvers. I wish I owned a 4" Model 27-2, what many handgun aficionados call the best .357 Mag revolver ever made (no slight intended to Python fans). But I don't. I do own a 4" blue steel GP 100, which is a decent handgun, but it does have its problems. BTW, I consider a 4" barreled revolver maximum length for a bipedal self-defense weapon.

Anyway, if the Cobra is ever offered for sale in CA, I'll own a copy.
SansSouci is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2016 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.17343 seconds with 11 queries