people you won't take to the range?

troy_mclure · May 30, 2011, 09:00 AM

is there anybody you know you wont take to the range(or again)?

why?

its a first for me, i really enjoy introducing non shooters to various guns.

my roomate begged me to take her and her sister shooting(the sister had never shot). the sister is the classic girly girl. the night before i gave her the standard "no low cut shirts, and no sandals" notice, and told them we were leaving at 12 noon.

well my roomie bails on me so i am stuck with just the sister(who took 3 hours to get ready).

it was incredibly frustrating. she would stop every 2 or 3 shots to answer texts, wouldnt listen to shooting advise(22yr old girls know best! :barf: ). i finally lied and told her the range was closing early, just to get away from her.

she seemed to enjoy the trip tho, maybe she can find somebody else to take her.

Lurch37 · May 30, 2011, 09:36 AM

If she seriously wants to learn and go again, tell her to leave the phone in the car, or at home and try again. Just because she doen't know your rules, or the way you act at the range doesn't means she's not interested perhaps.

alloy · May 30, 2011, 09:41 AM

Jeeez, AMOF it was her BFF, OMG.....chill.

I go too early for texts.

45Gunner · May 30, 2011, 09:55 AM

Nothing wrong with having a girly girl with you except that you must set down and enforce the rules. Stopping to respond to texts every two or three shots means there is a gun on the bench with live rounds in it. And if your shooter is texting, she could easily knock the gun off the bench. Further, she is not really paying attention or focusing on the task at hand which creates a danger for those around her.

Bringing people, especially new shooters to the range should be an enjoyable experience for all involved. But, their head should be completely wrapped around what they are doing as there are inherent dangers abound if they are distracted. A complete safety briefing should be the first accomplishment before even stepping a foot into the range area.

And those low cut blouses are a definite no-no on the range. Beside the danger of a hot ejected shell lodging down there, it is very distracting for us older guys. Where do you think the expression "shooting yourself in the foot" originated?

nathaniel · May 30, 2011, 09:55 AM

I've had friends that want to got to the range so I've taken them, most turn out alright but I had one friend that would not listen to me! He was sweeping me, shooting my pistol "gangsta" style :barf:, and he even had the balls to tell me I didnt know jack squat about guns. (the typical COD airhead). The next day he asked to go again, I was polite about it but I told him not until he took a shooting class and hunters saftey. Like they say, "you can't fix stupid."

As far as texting, I do it at the range. Its a good way to let the barrel cool down and I always take pics of my good groups and send them to my brothers to rub it in alittle.

chasep255 · May 30, 2011, 10:22 AM

I like taking friends to the range. One of my friends somehow shot one of the lights out with an AR.

Don't know how but it happened.

Davey · May 30, 2011, 11:44 AM

My brother because it seems he is bordering on becoming a Brady Buncher. I'm actually quite disappointed. He tried to use the argument that 2A only applies to militias. I thought he was more intelligent than that.

Silver Bullet · May 30, 2011, 12:09 PM

I won't take anyone who gives me the impression they think they are too smart for the 4 safety rules.

Buzzcook · May 30, 2011, 12:24 PM

Dick Cheney

m17s_guy · May 30, 2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Dick Cheney

ill go to the range with that one.... just not dove hunting!

raftman · May 30, 2011, 02:33 PM

A year or so ago, my younger sister said some college friends of hers wanted to go try shooting, and I like introducing people to shooting so I agreed. So it was me, my sister and 3 of her friends. After explaining the safety rules, most of them were pretty good. They took pretty naturally to shooting, even the Californian.

But this one dude was simply a complete moron; I would never agree to shoot with him again, not even if he paid me. For one thing, he kept sweeping the rest of us, even after repeated warnings not to. He was a terrible shot, and kept blaming the guns for it, talking all kinds of crap about my guns, saying his dad taught him to shoot so he knew what he was doing (even though no one else seemed to have any trouble hitting their targets with these same exact guns).

And the real icing on the cake, I turn around for a second or two just to get something out of the range bag and I see the moron holding my 9mm, finger on the trigger, looking down the bore with one eye. I shout and demand to know what he thinks he's doing, he smiles like an idiot and defends himself with, "What? There's not even a clip in it!"

Was a while ago, and I still get really angry just thinking about it.

jonnyc · May 30, 2011, 02:49 PM

"Dick Cheney" probably has access to some pretty neat firearms, and endless supplies of ammo. Running low??? A Halaburton chopper can drop right in with a new skid of 9mm.

NWPilgrim · May 30, 2011, 02:55 PM

I've taken several family and friends to the range and in all but one instance they were attentive and had a good time and I would gladly take any of them again. The one DEVIANT was a co-worker who was just reckless and too arrogant to admit he was ignorant about firearms even though he had never shot before. He did not listen to advice/instruction to either of us who had many years of experience. He shot willy nilly and rarely hit the target even at 10 yds.

If someone makes any effort to follow instruction and safety rules then I am willing to assist them to become more knowledgeable and capable, and have some fun. But if they can't be bothered with information about safety then I will not waste my time and put myself and others in danger because of their recklessness.

**Tom Servo** · May 30, 2011, 03:21 PM

I know of several ranges that ban phone usage on the line, and I think it's a good idea. Back in the 1990's, there was a phenomenon known as "beepilepsy," which described the sudden spasmodic jump people made when their pagers went off. The same thing applies to cellular phones. That's a distraction you don't need when handling a deadly weapon, but one that's hard to condition out of people.

Then again, someone I wouldn't take to the range is someone I wouldn't be associating with in general.

g.willikers · May 30, 2011, 04:20 PM

I take new folks to the range only after they have shown some amount of proficiency and complete safety with airsoft guns in the garage.
I'd druther get hit by a plastic pellet than a bullet any day.

CWKahrFan · May 30, 2011, 04:36 PM

"I take new folks to the range only after they have shown some amount of proficiency and complete safety with airsoft guns in the garage."

That's a great approach!

publius · May 30, 2011, 04:37 PM

I will not take anyone who won't listen to instruction(advice) and acts as if they are always right. I have only one friend like this and he lives in another town. I can size somebody up pretty quickly and tell whether or not they're going wqith me. I have never experienced this problem with girls, only guys whose ego's wont let them admit that there is something they don't know.

Gehrhard · May 30, 2011, 09:30 PM

I know a guy for years who wanted a shotgun. We're friendly and he worked for me once in awhile. Coached him, literature, book, even the catalog with the gun set circled. Offered to go with him to get it, on sale, and train him with other guys who needed shotgun training.

He went and got the gun alone and didn't tell me till sometime later. He finally confessed he was confused but couldn't explain. He eventually showed the set to me. Even the clamp that held the two barrels together for display confused him! Instead of buying the security combo set, as the main reason was for home security, with both an 18" and a screw in choke 28" sport barrel, he got the 28" and a heavy permanently scoped rifled-slug barrel set. He never hunted, and won't, a day in his life. He was too embarrassed to return it but lied and said he couldn't find the receipt. I offered to sell the slug-barrel next hunting season (which would have been this past Winter) and pick up a short riot barrel for him. Why didn't I sell his barrel, why did I keep the nice bargain riot barrel with factory installed handguard I got him, and never so much as discuss guns with him again?

He was continually refering to shotguns as rifles. When I corrected him every third time or so he just shruged it off like "whatever," and I realized he clearly did not understand the basic difference. Most of the time. It is probably why he got the slug set. I'm sure he still has no clue what he has, what it is for, or how it works. After I saw the gun I took him to a gunshow and when he didn't know I was behind him I overheard him tell a hunting guide whose time he was wasting that he just bought a 12 ga. rifle, and lots of ammunition. He failed to mention the ammo to me too. The now confused guide asked what kind of ammo for his 12 ga. rifle but couldn't get a rational answer except something about "what the store sold" him.

I decided right then and there I'd never be around or have anything to do with this guy and a gun or ammo. Not even a conversation that includes the subject. Others voted him "most likely to go postal." The book and literature I lent him I've written off. I don't feel so bad -- he's in his 50's and makes me nervous, but I'll live, and that's the point. Speaking of which, he still lives with his 80 year old mom and she's downright afraid to death of him.

CajunBass · May 30, 2011, 11:56 PM

The only person I've ever taken to the range is my wife.

I've never gone with anyone else.

I don't want the company.

**Aguila Blanca** · May 31, 2011, 05:29 AM

There are the 4 rules of firearms safety, and then there are the two rules of going shooting:

1) Turn off cell phones

2) Do what the instructor says

Somehow, people have become so dependent on their cell phones that they simply CANNOT follow rule #1. I just finished teaching a series of one-day classes for state employees. Each class began with a State trainer introducing me, and reminding everyone in the room (all of whom have attended previous such classes on multiple occasions) to turn off the cell phones or set them to vibrate. Once I started, the first Power Point slide was the class title, the second slide was my name and title, and the third was "PLEASE TURN OFF ALL CELL PHONES AND PAGERS."

Three out of the four classes, it wasn't more than 5 minutes after that slide that some idiot's cell phone rang.

It has to be an item of contractual agreement before you leave the apartment: You want to go shooting, you pay attention to SHOOTING. The cell phone is turned off and left in the car. If you won't agree to that, we don't go. If you violate that at the range, we leave.

Period.

Maxem0815 · May 31, 2011, 06:02 AM

I am a Range Officer at a public range and what I do is tell everyone the rules and if they do something slightly wrong I stop them inform them of safety issues and let them resume. If I see a gross safety violation I instruct them in the unsafe practice an how to correct it, if it continues the perpetrator is stopped from shooting and told not to return until they have taken a firearms safety course and has a signed card by there instructor. If then they do stupid things it buddy don't ever come back you will be arrested for trespass. I always give new shooters help but there are some individuals who shouldn't own a pen let alone a firearm, instruction in safety first then shoot is best. Cell phones smoking and conversation are for a cold range or off the fireing line.

Mace

Happieness is a belt fed weapon and lots of ammo

209Man · May 31, 2011, 06:57 AM

Some ranges doesn't allow cell phones on the range itself.

Skans · May 31, 2011, 10:14 AM

So far, no. I've never had a bad experience taking someone shooting. Just lucky, I guess.

After reading some of the responses, I really don't see the problem with bringing Cell Phones to the Range....just make sure to place it about 25 feet down range, wait for it to ring, then blast away!

aarondhgraham · May 31, 2011, 10:42 AM

I know this will sound like a cliche,,,
But the Call of Duty players frustrate me.

My experience has been that the young ladies will listen,,,
You really have to get their attention before the young men will listen.

But, all in all it's been a very positive thing to do,,,
I'll keep taking newbies to the range,,,
As long as they show the interest.

Aarond

P.S. One of he young ladies I presented with that Intro to Handguns class,,,
Just asked me to help her pick out a .22 semi-auto for range practice,,,
I'll bet a shiny new .44 Magnum round that she CC's in 6 months.

.

Ringolevio · May 31, 2011, 11:03 PM

After reading these posts, from now one when I go to the range I'm gonna wonder if some other shooter there has brought along somebody who has no business being around loaded firearms.

I guess my attitude would take all the "fun" out of it for novices, especially some of the airheads so many of you describe taking to the range. I don't want anyone there who doesn't fully, unequivocally understand the basic rules. Right off the bat, I'd hand 'em an unloaded firearm, and if they point the muzzle anywhere but downrange or put their finger inside the trigger guard, that's the end of it; they are automatically disqualified.

I frequent two local ranges. One is outdoors and state-run; the sessions are regimented, and they watch every move and brook no carelessness. The other is private, indoors, and although they are nice folks, they seem to have a laissez-faire attitude and it's a miracle there aren't more accidents.

It's bad enough going bowling when the person in the next lane doesn't know d*ck about bowling. But at the range, when the person in the next lane, or down the line, doesn't know d*ck about gun handling and gun safety, that turns my stress-relieving activity into a stress-inducing activity.

May 30, 2011, 09:36 AM	#2
Lurch37 Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2006 Location: Middle of Nebraska Posts: 944	If she seriously wants to learn and go again, tell her to leave the phone in the car, or at home and try again. Just because she doen't know your rules, or the way you act at the range doesn't means she's not interested perhaps. __________________ I reject your reality and substitute my own.

May 30, 2011, 09:55 AM	#4
45Gunner Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 1,902	Nothing wrong with having a girly girl with you except that you must set down and enforce the rules. Stopping to respond to texts every two or three shots means there is a gun on the bench with live rounds in it. And if your shooter is texting, she could easily knock the gun off the bench. Further, she is not really paying attention or focusing on the task at hand which creates a danger for those around her. Bringing people, especially new shooters to the range should be an enjoyable experience for all involved. But, their head should be completely wrapped around what they are doing as there are inherent dangers abound if they are distracted. A complete safety briefing should be the first accomplishment before even stepping a foot into the range area. And those low cut blouses are a definite no-no on the range. Beside the danger of a hot ejected shell lodging down there, it is very distracting for us older guys. Where do you think the expression "shooting yourself in the foot" originated? __________________ 45Gunner May the Schwartz Be With You. NRA Instructor NRA Life Member

May 30, 2011, 12:09 PM	#8
Silver Bullet Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2001 Location: Arizona Posts: 995	I won't take anyone who gives me the impression they think they are too smart for the 4 safety rules. __________________ I am not a real bullet, nor do I play one on television. American socialism: Democrats trying to get Republicans to provide for them.

May 30, 2011, 02:33 PM	#11
raftman Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,890	A year or so ago, my younger sister said some college friends of hers wanted to go try shooting, and I like introducing people to shooting so I agreed. So it was me, my sister and 3 of her friends. After explaining the safety rules, most of them were pretty good. They took pretty naturally to shooting, even the Californian. But this one dude was simply a complete moron; I would never agree to shoot with him again, not even if he paid me. For one thing, he kept sweeping the rest of us, even after repeated warnings not to. He was a terrible shot, and kept blaming the guns for it, talking all kinds of crap about my guns, saying his dad taught him to shoot so he knew what he was doing (even though no one else seemed to have any trouble hitting their targets with these same exact guns). And the real icing on the cake, I turn around for a second or two just to get something out of the range bag and I see the moron holding my 9mm, finger on the trigger, looking down the bore with one eye. I shout and demand to know what he thinks he's doing, he smiles like an idiot and defends himself with, "What? There's not even a clip in it!" Was a while ago, and I still get really angry just thinking about it. __________________ "My momma, she done told me, there's heart and then there's hate If one of 'em's inside of you, the other one, it aint."

May 30, 2011, 02:55 PM	#13
NWPilgrim Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,346	I've taken several family and friends to the range and in all but one instance they were attentive and had a good time and I would gladly take any of them again. The one DEVIANT was a co-worker who was just reckless and too arrogant to admit he was ignorant about firearms even though he had never shot before. He did not listen to advice/instruction to either of us who had many years of experience. He shot willy nilly and rarely hit the target even at 10 yds. If someone makes any effort to follow instruction and safety rules then I am willing to assist them to become more knowledgeable and capable, and have some fun. But if they can't be bothered with information about safety then I will not waste my time and put myself and others in danger because of their recklessness. __________________ "The ultimate authority ... resides in the people alone. ... The advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition." - James Madison

May 30, 2011, 09:00 AM	#1
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	people you won't take to the range? is there anybody you know you wont take to the range(or again)? why? its a first for me, i really enjoy introducing non shooters to various guns. my roomate begged me to take her and her sister shooting(the sister had never shot). the sister is the classic girly girl. the night before i gave her the standard "no low cut shirts, and no sandals" notice, and told them we were leaving at 12 noon. well my roomie bails on me so i am stuck with just the sister(who took 3 hours to get ready). it was incredibly frustrating. she would stop every 2 or 3 shots to answer texts, wouldnt listen to shooting advise(22yr old girls know best! :barf: ). i finally lied and told her the range was closing early, just to get away from her. she seemed to enjoy the trip tho, maybe she can find somebody else to take her. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

May 30, 2011, 09:55 AM	#5
nathaniel Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 600	I've had friends that want to got to the range so I've taken them, most turn out alright but I had one friend that would not listen to me! He was sweeping me, shooting my pistol "gangsta" style :barf:, and he even had the balls to tell me I didnt know jack squat about guns. (the typical COD airhead). The next day he asked to go again, I was polite about it but I told him not until he took a shooting class and hunters saftey. Like they say, "you can't fix stupid." As far as texting, I do it at the range. Its a good way to let the barrel cool down and I always take pics of my good groups and send them to my brothers to rub it in alittle.

May 30, 2011, 10:22 AM	#6
chasep255 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 727	I like taking friends to the range. One of my friends somehow shot one of the lights out with an AR. Don't know how but it happened.

May 30, 2011, 11:44 AM	#7
Davey Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2010 Location: Not far enough from Chicago Posts: 394	My brother because it seems he is bordering on becoming a Brady Buncher. I'm actually quite disappointed. He tried to use the argument that 2A only applies to militias. I thought he was more intelligent than that.

May 30, 2011, 12:24 PM	#9
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	Dick Cheney

May 30, 2011, 02:49 PM	#12
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	"Dick Cheney" probably has access to some pretty neat firearms, and endless supplies of ammo. Running low??? A Halaburton chopper can drop right in with a new skid of 9mm.

May 30, 2011, 03:21 PM	#14
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	I know of several ranges that ban phone usage on the line, and I think it's a good idea. Back in the 1990's, there was a phenomenon known as "beepilepsy," which described the sudden spasmodic jump people made when their pagers went off. The same thing applies to cellular phones. That's a distraction you don't need when handling a deadly weapon, but one that's hard to condition out of people. Then again, someone I wouldn't take to the range is someone I wouldn't be associating with in general. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

May 30, 2011, 04:20 PM	#15
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	I take new folks to the range only after they have shown some amount of proficiency and complete safety with airsoft guns in the garage. I'd druther get hit by a plastic pellet than a bullet any day. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

May 30, 2011, 04:36 PM	#16
CWKahrFan Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2010 Posts: 2,016	"I take new folks to the range only after they have shown some amount of proficiency and complete safety with airsoft guns in the garage." That's a great approach! __________________ What did Mrs. Bullet say to Mr. Bullet? ... "We're having a BeeBee!"... IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!... IF THE GUN FITS, SHOOT IT! "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

May 30, 2011, 04:37 PM	#17
publius Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2005 Location: Mississippi/Texas Posts: 2,505	I will not take anyone who won't listen to instruction(advice) and acts as if they are always right. I have only one friend like this and he lives in another town. I can size somebody up pretty quickly and tell whether or not they're going wqith me. I have never experienced this problem with girls, only guys whose ego's wont let them admit that there is something they don't know. __________________ "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress, but I repeat myself." Mark Twain

May 30, 2011, 09:30 PM	#18
Gehrhard Junior member Join Date: July 15, 2009 Location: East of the Missississippippi Posts: 675	I know a guy for years who wanted a shotgun. We're friendly and he worked for me once in awhile. Coached him, literature, book, even the catalog with the gun set circled. Offered to go with him to get it, on sale, and train him with other guys who needed shotgun training. He went and got the gun alone and didn't tell me till sometime later. He finally confessed he was confused but couldn't explain. He eventually showed the set to me. Even the clamp that held the two barrels together for display confused him! Instead of buying the security combo set, as the main reason was for home security, with both an 18" and a screw in choke 28" sport barrel, he got the 28" and a heavy permanently scoped rifled-slug barrel set. He never hunted, and won't, a day in his life. He was too embarrassed to return it but lied and said he couldn't find the receipt. I offered to sell the slug-barrel next hunting season (which would have been this past Winter) and pick up a short riot barrel for him. Why didn't I sell his barrel, why did I keep the nice bargain riot barrel with factory installed handguard I got him, and never so much as discuss guns with him again? He was continually refering to shotguns as rifles. When I corrected him every third time or so he just shruged it off like "whatever," and I realized he clearly did not understand the basic difference. Most of the time. It is probably why he got the slug set. I'm sure he still has no clue what he has, what it is for, or how it works. After I saw the gun I took him to a gunshow and when he didn't know I was behind him I overheard him tell a hunting guide whose time he was wasting that he just bought a 12 ga. rifle, and lots of ammunition. He failed to mention the ammo to me too. The now confused guide asked what kind of ammo for his 12 ga. rifle but couldn't get a rational answer except something about "what the store sold" him. I decided right then and there I'd never be around or have anything to do with this guy and a gun or ammo. Not even a conversation that includes the subject. Others voted him "most likely to go postal." The book and literature I lent him I've written off. I don't feel so bad -- he's in his 50's and makes me nervous, but I'll live, and that's the point. Speaking of which, he still lives with his 80 year old mom and she's downright afraid to death of him. Last edited by Gehrhard; May 30, 2011 at 09:48 PM.

May 30, 2011, 11:56 PM	#19
CajunBass Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2005 Location: North Chesterfield, Virginia Posts: 4,767	The only person I've ever taken to the range is my wife. I've never gone with anyone else. I don't want the company. __________________ For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

May 31, 2011, 05:29 AM	#20
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	There are the 4 rules of firearms safety, and then there are the two rules of going shooting: 1) Turn off cell phones 2) Do what the instructor says Somehow, people have become so dependent on their cell phones that they simply CANNOT follow rule #1. I just finished teaching a series of one-day classes for state employees. Each class began with a State trainer introducing me, and reminding everyone in the room (all of whom have attended previous such classes on multiple occasions) to turn off the cell phones or set them to vibrate. Once I started, the first Power Point slide was the class title, the second slide was my name and title, and the third was "PLEASE TURN OFF ALL CELL PHONES AND PAGERS." Three out of the four classes, it wasn't more than 5 minutes after that slide that some idiot's cell phone rang. It has to be an item of contractual agreement before you leave the apartment: You want to go shooting, you pay attention to SHOOTING. The cell phone is turned off and left in the car. If you won't agree to that, we don't go. If you violate that at the range, we leave. Period.

May 31, 2011, 06:02 AM	#21
Maxem0815 Junior member Join Date: May 23, 2011 Posts: 216	I am a Range Officer at a public range and what I do is tell everyone the rules and if they do something slightly wrong I stop them inform them of safety issues and let them resume. If I see a gross safety violation I instruct them in the unsafe practice an how to correct it, if it continues the perpetrator is stopped from shooting and told not to return until they have taken a firearms safety course and has a signed card by there instructor. If then they do stupid things it buddy don't ever come back you will be arrested for trespass. I always give new shooters help but there are some individuals who shouldn't own a pen let alone a firearm, instruction in safety first then shoot is best. Cell phones smoking and conversation are for a cold range or off the fireing line. Mace Happieness is a belt fed weapon and lots of ammo

May 31, 2011, 06:57 AM	#22
209Man Member Join Date: March 14, 2011 Posts: 76	Some ranges doesn't allow cell phones on the range itself. __________________ Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color]s. ~ William Gibson

May 31, 2011, 10:14 AM	#23
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	So far, no. I've never had a bad experience taking someone shooting. Just lucky, I guess. After reading some of the responses, I really don't see the problem with bringing Cell Phones to the Range....just make sure to place it about 25 feet down range, wait for it to ring, then blast away! Last edited by Skans; May 31, 2011 at 10:20 AM.

May 31, 2011, 10:42 AM	#24
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	I take quite a few college kids shooting,,, I know this will sound like a cliche,,, But the Call of Duty players frustrate me. My experience has been that the young ladies will listen,,, You really have to get their attention before the young men will listen. But, all in all it's been a very positive thing to do,,, I'll keep taking newbies to the range,,, As long as they show the interest. Aarond P.S. One of he young ladies I presented with that Intro to Handguns class,,, Just asked me to help her pick out a .22 semi-auto for range practice,,, I'll bet a shiny new .44 Magnum round that she CC's in 6 months. . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

May 31, 2011, 11:03 PM	#25
Ringolevio Junior member Join Date: March 30, 2011 Location: Where the Kaw meets the Mighty Mo Posts: 241	You guys are making me nervous After reading these posts, from now one when I go to the range I'm gonna wonder if some other shooter there has brought along somebody who has no business being around loaded firearms. I guess my attitude would take all the "fun" out of it for novices, especially some of the airheads so many of you describe taking to the range. I don't want anyone there who doesn't fully, unequivocally understand the basic rules. Right off the bat, I'd hand 'em an unloaded firearm, and if they point the muzzle anywhere but downrange or put their finger inside the trigger guard, that's the end of it; they are automatically disqualified. I frequent two local ranges. One is outdoors and state-run; the sessions are regimented, and they watch every move and brook no carelessness. The other is private, indoors, and although they are nice folks, they seem to have a laissez-faire attitude and it's a miracle there aren't more accidents. It's bad enough going bowling when the person in the next lane doesn't know dck about bowling. But at the range, when the person in the next lane, or down the line, doesn't know dck about gun handling and gun safety, that turns my stress-relieving activity into a stress-inducing activity.