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Old March 8, 2009, 12:34 PM   #1
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Short List Of American Made

I posted this on another thread and was disappointed at how short the list is for American Made handguns. Rifles & shotguns are on the list but I am mainly talking about handguns.

http://www.americansworking.com/guns.html


Anyone have others to add, or maybe disagree with the list?
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Old March 8, 2009, 12:48 PM   #2
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Where are Colts made? I know they're not in the same league, but Wilsons, NHC, Baer, and Rock River pistols are all made in the US. Kimber, Kahr, STI, Infinity... And I think many foreign makers have plants in the US. Sig, FN.

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Old March 8, 2009, 12:52 PM   #3
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That list is horribly incomplete. Colts are made in Connecticut. American Berettas are made in Maryland. Sigs are assembled in New Hampshire. Glocks are assembled in Georgia. Kimbers are made in New York. I could keep going, but as you can see, that list is totally incomplete.
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Old March 8, 2009, 02:11 PM   #4
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Kahr's are made in America - so I've been told.
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Old March 8, 2009, 03:00 PM   #5
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seecamp made milford ct.
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Old March 8, 2009, 03:09 PM   #7
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ParaUSA (formerly ParaOrdnance) is now 100% American made as well. They up and moved all their manufacturing from Canada to North Carolina this year.
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Old March 8, 2009, 03:11 PM   #8
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My Auto-Ordnance M1911A1 was made in Worcester Massachusetts
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Old March 8, 2009, 03:20 PM   #9
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Old March 8, 2009, 03:33 PM   #10
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Wait a minute guys & gals. Too many to answer, but some of what you mentioned above are made in other countries. I know Mossberg use to have Mexico plants...maybe no more. But the list means completely made in the USA...not just assembled from parts made in other countries.

I admit I do not know the real list, so just double check and make sure about your pistols that you think are made in the USA.....I hope you are right.
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Old March 8, 2009, 03:36 PM   #11
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Very incomplete list... On the rifle side... Where's savage and Remington???
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Old March 8, 2009, 03:40 PM   #12
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Very incomplete list... On the rifle side...
As stated in my OP I was just trying to limit to handguns.

What I am hoping to come of this is a real complete list of American made pistols.
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Old March 8, 2009, 03:51 PM   #13
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Here is another list, I cannot explain why S&W is not on the list. I think they should be.

http://home.earthlink.net/~manzanova...facturers.html

I think getting a correct list is going to be harder than we think.
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Old March 8, 2009, 04:08 PM   #14
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"Rock River pistols are made in the US"

I agree that the list is woefully incomplete, but just to keep things straight
Rock River's are made in the Phillipines. Rock River, Charles Daly, the
STI Spartan--The frames, slides, and in most cases the whole guns are
manufactured by Armscor.
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Old March 8, 2009, 04:25 PM   #15
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I agree that the list is woefully incomplete, but just to keep things straight Rock River's are made in the Phillipines. Rock River, Charles Daly, the STI Spartan--The frames, slides, and in most cases the whole guns are manufactured by Armscor.
Rock River Arms are made in the USA. Rock Island pistols are made in the Phillippines.
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Old March 8, 2009, 04:31 PM   #16
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but just to keep things straight
Rock River's are made in the Philippines
Like I said, this is going to be hard. In the old days it was easy, "made in America" meant that all of the components and Assembly were done in America. Now companies are not really held to a tight legal standard. "made In America" could mean that over 50% of the parts are made here and the other made elsewhere. It's up to the manufacture to define. I am really thinking of a tight standard like Ruger. Ruger fabricates their own parts and then do all the assembly....now that's American made. Now my XD is not American made, although Springfield Armory is about the oldest gun manufacturing in the US.

This is not going to be easy, but it would (IMO) be good to have a list.

I think "made in America" should mean you fabricate the from raw materials and do the final machining and assembly. Raw does not mean pre-fab...it means raw material such as raw bar stock for barrels.

I think a small number are going to meet this criteria.

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Old March 8, 2009, 04:48 PM   #17
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Then you have the issue of where the company is from versus where the guns are made. Most of the Glocks in America came from Smyrna GA.

There are several other notable companies like this, in many other industries as well.

Back in the film days, many would buy Kodak over Fuji to support an American company - all the while Fuji was employing more Americans than Kodak did.

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Old March 8, 2009, 05:00 PM   #18
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The castings and forgings for the Glocks are still being made in Austria and sent to Smyrna, GA, to be assembled there.

Taurus machines and assembles some of their pistols in Florida.
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Spring Field Armory is about the oldest gun manufacturing in the US.
And their 1911s are made in Brazil.

Where does DW fit in? 100 percent American made but owned by CZ.
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Spring Field Armory is about the oldest gun manufacturing in the US.

And their 1911s are made in Brazil.
XD's are made in Croatia as well if I'm not mistaken.

I'm pretty sure that Ruger is also American Made as are Kel-Tec and Kahr
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Old March 8, 2009, 07:04 PM   #21
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I would still like to get to a fairly good list. The criteria I am thinking is that the pistol parts and Assembly are done in the USA. I don't care about the home base. If Glock makes all parts here then they could be on the list, but if they ship in some parts and do a mixed bag then no.

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Where does DW fit in? 100 percent American made but owned by CZ.
That should count as American made...IMO.

If we go with no foreign country involved then that won't work, the list is going to be real short.
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The Springfield Armory of today IS NOT the Springfield Armory of old, don't let the name confuse you.
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Sigs are made elsewhere and assembled here so they are off the list.
Browning is import also as well as Wheatherby
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Old March 8, 2009, 07:15 PM   #24
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The Springfield Armory of today IS NOT the Springfield Armory of old, don't let the name confuse you.
Good point. It is not the same as the old original that was from about 1777 to 1968.
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Old March 8, 2009, 07:23 PM   #25
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OK, so lets start with a partial list. We agree it's not complete, but it's a start. In alphabetical order. Pistols Only.

American Derringer
Bond Arms
Charter Arms
Heritage Manufacturing
Hi-point
Kel-Tec
ParaUSA (formerly ParaOrdnance) is now 100% American made as well.
seecamp made milford ct.
Ruger
S&W (are all Smith's American made?..not sure)

Remember all main components and machining & assembly done in USA. What should we add?

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