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April 6, 2014, 08:55 PM | #1 |
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Smokey Reloads - Hardcast?
I just shot a some fresh reloads and this is the first time I've ever had them smoke so much. This is the first time I have used hardcast bullets. They r 9mm, with titegroup and 17bhn bullets. is this normal?
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April 6, 2014, 08:57 PM | #2 |
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Yes, somewhat normal. I think it has to do more with which lubricant was used on the cast bullet. I have some that I picked up at a gun show that I refuse to shoot at the indoor range. I have others that don't smoke at all.
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April 7, 2014, 05:35 AM | #3 |
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Bullet lube is smokey indeed...
Add in a 'dirty' powder like Red Dot etc. (one that does not burn cleanly at lower pressures), and you get a fun day at the range... I personally enjoy it... |
April 7, 2014, 06:04 AM | #4 |
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Titegroup is pretty well known for a lot of smoke with cast bullets, its high flame temperature apparently gets the bullet lube smoldering very quickly.
But changing powder would not help a lot, it is just what cast bullets do. |
April 7, 2014, 07:26 AM | #5 |
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It is definitely lube dependent. Old fashioned lubes containing beeswax will blacken the gun and a huge cloud of sweet smelling smoke will issue from the gun. More modern high temperature stick lubes like Red Rooster or T/C Blue are far less prone to this.
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April 7, 2014, 09:43 AM | #6 |
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Most of my reloads are with Titegroup and lead. Excellent mosquito control/luv bugs and the such. Normal is the smoke
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April 7, 2014, 09:52 AM | #7 |
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The smoke is my only complaint with cast bullets.
Well I really don't mind but whoever is shooting down wind does - ROFLMAO!
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April 7, 2014, 10:42 AM | #8 |
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like everyone has already said, it's the TG and the lube.
I use TG with lead, but don't run into this issue. Why? I run Bayou Bullets (the famous/infamous? green bullets). Very little smoke...you notice it indoors, but it's not bad at all (you're not fumigating, just a quickly dissipating puff)...outdoors, you don't even notice it.
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April 8, 2014, 11:13 AM | #9 |
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Very little smoke with BlackBulletsInternational too. Same lube as bayou but in black instead of green.
Noticed my buddy who uses titegroup smokes a lot more with them than my unique reloads. |
April 8, 2014, 11:24 AM | #10 |
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My local bullet supplier switched from his own lead bullets to the plated ones, that are now required at the local indoor ranges that stock his reloaded ammo.
Easy to see why.
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